From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 28 14:19:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8EC16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:19:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B01C43D1D for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:19:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdfreak@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so889957rny for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:19:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CS5IihlAwPEnwSS7xhpboDKcLV/MXLxhRdWz3m2rzl/43hK+JPJeyqxBSwuEDkk3oR2SbMxcamqmalq5viL1BVndNMvI8vWOcCbsvgJolPY17WaSZkvRoVgxZ9C+suoyMP7NSOkQWTDYfN5Hjmbu3pp1LMxyTLBHIHWSJZQCdkw= Received: by 10.38.8.30 with SMTP id 30mr947026rnh; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.179.44 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:19:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:19:53 -0500 From: Alexander Chamandy To: bob@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503272250.PAA01070@quail.sorsby.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: crs@swcp.com Subject: Re: Help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexander Chamandy List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:19:55 -0000 Bob is right. Aside from exciting features and performance enhancements, however, one major reason to upgrade is security. There's a lot of serious vulnerabilities in older releases, it's important to keep your system up to date to prevent them from being exploited. On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:48:00 -0500, bob@a1poweruser.com wrote: > Use your 3.4 FreeBSD system or a win system to download the mini.iso > file for 4.11 and then burn it to cd. Boot your box from the 4.11 > mini newly created cd and accept the default slice sizes, select not > to install the ports collection. The ports collection is over 3000 > strong now and some are variations of same base port. You are being > foolish to select all ports as that is unnecessary and a gross waist > of disk space. After base install is complete then select the ports > you want and install separately. > > You are way back level and there has been great changes in the > system and the sysinstall process. Read and follow this Install > guide for step by step instructions for 4.11 release as it's the > same as 4.10. > > http://freebsd.packards-home.net/index.php > > Yes FreeBSD CAN be installed on the fourth of four SCSI disk drives > on the second of two SCSI cards, but if you have other operating > systems on those other disks you will have to manual update the MBR > (master boot record) multi boot program on the HD the PC bios point > to for selecting which operating system you want to boot from. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charlie > Sorsby > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 5:51 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Help! > > Every time I turn round, someone is telling me that I should update > to a more recent version of freeBSD. Each time I try, I encounter > nothing but trouble. > > Before I even begin: *CAN* freeBSD be installed on the fourth of > four SCSI disk drives on the second of two SCSI cards? > > I know of no way to record the error messages other than with > pencil and paper -- not a very efficient method in this computer > age, especially when one is in the throes of frustration. > > I tried some time ago, updating to 4.5, the latest version for > which I have a CDROM. When I encountered problems and queried this > list, I received a message to the effect that the installer should > quit working after X years. Perhaps that was tongue in cheek but > it was singularly unhelpful. > > So, I continued to use 3.4 which, aside from the fact that I can't > add anything new or update any ports or ... has stood me in good > stead for years. > > Finally getting tired of using netscape 4.76 -- I've been > unsuccessful > at finding any "modern" browser that I can install under 3.4 -- > and having it crashed by "modern" web sites, I decided to try again. > I fetched the floppy images for 4.11 -- I have no interest in 5.x, > 4.x is far enough removed from real BSD that I wouldn't go that > route it I had a choice. > > Busy with other things, I finally got round to trying an ftp > install today. > > Before I proceed, I suppose that I'd best tell you what my system > comprises: > > M'board: Intel D845WN > > CPU: P4, 2.4GHz, 478, 512K, 400MHz FSB > > Memory: Crucial 512MB, 168-pin, DIMM 64Mx64, PC133 SDRAM > > Case: Antec Sonata with Antec "TruePower" supply. > > SCSI cards (presently, the Adaptec is in the PCI slot closer to the > CPU): > Adaptec 2940 > Tekram DC-390U2W > > Ethernet; Intel PRO100S > > Disk drives (The first three are on the 2940, the fourth on the > Tekram): > IBM DORS-32160 WA0A, 2GB (from original system, > with leftover freeBSD 2.1.5 stuff, > no longer bootable.) > Seagate ST34501N 0015, 4GB (with freeBSD 3.4) > Seagate ST39216N 0010, 9GB (/home -- no OS) > Seagate ST318517W 0105, 18GB (on which I tried > to install 4.5 before and 4.11 today. > > CDROM drive: Plextor (don't recall specs.) > > Video card: Matrox Millennium G400, AGP4X, 32MB SGRAM > > Oh -- FWIW, I'm also running XFree86 4.1.0 although that should not > be relevant to the installation problem but, like the feller says, > for the sake of completeness... > > (I'll append -- at the end of this message -- dmesg from latest > boot after unsuccessful installation to cover anything that I've > forgotten. This system has simply evolved over the years.) > > I hope I won't forget any parts of this; I had to get back to 3.4 > in order to be able to do this e-mail. I got through the fdisk > and disklabel (re)configuration of the fourth disk onto which I > planned to install freeBSD 4.11 (having selected "Standard Install") > > Here's what I tried to set up as (Unix) partitions (remember this > is on the 18GB drive): > > / 128MB # Thought this should be more than > enough > swap 512MB > /usr 4196MB > /var 512MB > /usr/local 4196MB > /tmp 512MB > /spare # Everything else -- to be disposed of later. > > I then proceeded to choose the installation "package" or whatever > it's called -- I chose "ALL" and then replied yes to the query > about installing the ports collection. > > I believe that the next query was the choice of installation medium; > I chose (the first) ftp and the first (ftp.freebsd.org?) server in > the list and fetching the bits and pieces began. > > Within a very few minutes, the installer complained that it had run > out of space on / -- why it would have tried to fetch everything to > the root partition is beyond me but that's what it said. Oh -- > there was one previous complaint about not being able to create a > swap partition that I'd requested as partition b. I don't > understand that, either. > > Aside (just in case it may be relevant): Recently, I've not been > able to boot the CDROM. I had no reason to try when I rebuilt the > system some time ago with the Intel m'board and Antec case. I > first noticed it some time ago when I tried to install 4.5. I had > never had a problem with the old Gigabyte m'board system. As I > said, I don't know if this is relevant but thought I'd better > mention it just in case. > > Here's the dmesg output: > > Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #6: Tue Jun 29 08:43:56 MDT 2004 > root@quail.sorsby.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/KERNEL.CRS > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2392250892 Hz > CPU: unknown (2392.25-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf27 Stepping = 7 > > Features=0xbfebfbff ,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,,,,MMX,FXSR,,, > ,,,> > real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) > config> di wdc1 > config> di wdc0 > config> q > avail memory = 519696384 (507516K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e4000. > Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02e409c. > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0: rev 0x03 on > pci0.0.0 > chip1: rev 0x03 on > pci0.1.0 > chip2: rev 0x05 on > pci0.30.0 > chip3: rev 0x05 on > pci0.31.0 > uhci0: rev 0x05 int d irq 11 on > pci0.31.2 > (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24428086) > uhci1: rev 0x05 int c irq 11 on > pci0.31.4 > (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24448086) > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > vga0: rev 0x04 int a irq 11 > on pci1.0.0 > Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: > ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci2.10.0 > ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > ncr0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on > pci2.11.0 > fxp0: rev 0x0c int a irq > 10 on pci2.12.0 > fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:eb:02:ba > Probing for PnP devices: > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: > sc0 on isa > sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> > atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard > atkbd0 irq 1 on isa > psm0 irq 12 on isa > psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa > sio0: type 16550A > sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa > sio1: type 16550A > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa > ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppb0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP > Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: > ppbus0: PRINTER MLC,PCL,PML,DW-PCL,DYN,DESKJET > lpt0: on ppbus 0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus 0 > plip0: on ppbus 0 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa > npx0 on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > usb0: > uhub0 at usb0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > usb1: > uhub1 at usb1 > uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub1: device problem, disabling port 2 > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > changing root device to da1s1a > da3 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged > Queueing Enabled > da3: 17547MB (35937500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2237C) > da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da2: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) > cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not > present > da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da1: 4339MB (8887200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) > > Thank you for any help you may be able to provide. > > Kindest regards, > > Charlie > -- > Charlie Sorsby > crs@swcp.com > P. 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