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Date:      Thu, 28 May 2015 10:19:12 -0700
From:      Walter Parker <walterp@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: New pkg audit / vuln.xml failures (php55, unzoo)
Message-ID:  <CAMPTd_Ccdb%2BqgSFoMYqvLdToHLAoEEq9m6YZAONpvf739BKEmw@mail.gmail.com>

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> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:35:41 -0700
> From: "Roger Marquis" <marquis@roble.com>
> To: "Mark Felder" <feld@FreeBSD.org>
> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: New pkg audit / vuln.xml failures (php55, unzoo)
> Message-ID: <mailman.91.1432814411.48534.freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
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>
>>>   * operators of FreeBSD servers (unlike Debian, Ubuntu, RedHat, Suse and
>>>   OpenBSD server operators) have no assurance that their systems are
>>>   secure.
>>

That's an interesting definition of security assurance. The existence
or quicker updating of a list of insecure packages does not make a
system secure. It aids in the auditing of the security of the system,
which is not the same thing as actually having a secure system.
Standard logic says that lack of evidence does not prove
non-existence.

What actual assurance do Debian, Ubuntu, Redhat, and Suse provide that
their systems are secure? An audit trail of CVE issues fixed, while a
good start. is hardly a strong assurance that the system is secure.

How much faster must FreeBSD respond for it to join the "security
assurance" club of the major Linux vendors? Is this a paperwork issue
or a process issue?


Walter



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