From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 15:42:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EA11065672 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f14.google.com (mail-bw0-f14.google.com [209.85.218.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31698FC17 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subbsd@gmail.com) Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so2093863bwz.19 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:42:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=le9lFbhKiAiDHTHevNOMN3oNS1YvPPA0Zp3GHBQmtzk=; b=TynJ980eQerZMtQto3/VpST/IeC0vCJSE7GiBZ0FO623r4mfxE3irGKmgtCMbnPK/H vXQ/e/nF5CEsB41CcRjHcusewB8vYjaXNSzzuz8KBxplxabT4lY67dwTrrLARPPKnEES mSnoJkEHauiK11WVPfBlNyMjoYPICNqpWvqP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=Z3YM+REvijPO0tc1/2wWmVsRbqfdpBejgwbP9xbi+We0IAZhGuGBzKzHEL7qIZhvRf JO8pU1xPdCUmXWwlwhbGGhE6VUk3yAPMi78X+Hm+SEjrJ1F7NtItJZYXxptcJMYGqg/M PnAXrtNumCQ4/WibaLfbJKjabs0IULjtglxzE= Received: by 10.223.111.211 with SMTP id t19mr2868302fap.64.1229009920433; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from oleg.net.nevosoft.ru ([195.182.128.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm91857eyc.3.2008.12.11.07.38.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:38:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:38:30 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/7.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.1; i386; ; ) References: <4be2da2e0812062344y26eddcc9sf589531d10c71a1c@mail.gmail.com> <20081211155500.H1327@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1229008984.2749.74.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: <1229008984.2749.74.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812111838.31387.subbsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: subbsd@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:42:46 -0000 Also you can use portupgrade -PP -PP --use-packages-only Never use the port even if a package is not avail- able either locally or remotely, although you still have to keep your ports tree up-to-date so that portupgrade can check out what the latest version of each port is. In in some cases re-compiling it better then package usage. For example you may wish for GnomeVFS support by OO, or drop GNOME support and KDE support instead. This function sets in configure by program author and when you working with ports you can play this options On Thursday 11 December 2008 18:23:04 Julien Cigar wrote: > > > that this is a well known bug that require some rearchitecting and that > > > a proper umount has always been the way to umount a drive, but, > > > honestly, you cannot seriously convince someone to use FreeBSD with > > > things like this ... > > > - Altough ports are fantastic, building things like OpenOffice or ... > > > is just inhuman, especially when you cannot use -j for building ports > > > (but it's being resolved I think). Of course there are packages, but > > > it's far less friendly to use (and manage) than apt-get/dpkg. > > > > you may pkg_add from ftp repository > > of course .. too bad that there is no pkg_upgrade