Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:31:44 +0200 From: Yonatan Bokovza <Yonatan@xpert.com> To: 'Stephen McKay' <mckay@thehub.com.au>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping victims of terror)) Message-ID: <EB513E68D3F5D41191CA000255588101B434EF@mailserv.xpert.com>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen McKay [mailto:mckay@thehub.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 17:47 > To: Brett Glass > Cc: chat@freebsd.org; mckay@thehub.com.au > Subject: Re: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping victims > of terror)) > > > On Sunday, 21st October 2001, Brett Glass wrote: > > >At 06:43 PM 10/20/2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >>As opposed to moderate Christianity or moderate Judaism? Members of > >>all three religions continue to commit atrocities in the > name of their > >>religion. > > > >Oh? And what "atrocities" have Jews "contined to commit" in the name > >of their religion? > > Well, for a start, the Israeli Government's policy of assassinating > Palestinians it doesn't like. I really can't understand how their > politicians can get up on TV and complain about Palestinian terrorism > as if they don't use exactly the same methods themselves. > > Or are you suggesting they do this purely secularly, without religious > connotations? That's a subtle point in these times. I'll take on that as I probably have more information on this then you guys. Fighting terror is a hard problem in modern day and age as many facilities and strategies that we're developed for all-out army war are almost irrelevant. A very good solution that can be applied in small territories such as Israel is getting *a lot* of Intel on *known* targets and "eliminating" them. Yes, people are being killed. Yes, *all* of them are terrorists. No, these are not the same methods as the terrorist's. An army can't send suicide bombers to explode themselves amidst a crowd of civilians. You have question the "target acquiring" process. The process in which it's decided to level this or the other individual. I dare you to find one declared "target" who has not earned that title. Comparing the Israeli tactics with the American tactic, which failed miserably in Vietnam and in the Gulf war, I think "elimination" of selected individuals is much more humane and less prone to hurt bystanders. It seems absurd to compare the Israeli "eliminations" to terrorists activity, it is a controlled-army action against proven terrorists. It's as if I was comparing the American activities in Afghanistan, which undoubtedly are *meant* to protect Americans, to terrorists activity. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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