From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 08:17:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1F516A4CE; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tcbug.org (12-218-40-24.client.mchsi.com [12.218.40.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A8A43D1D; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:17:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from friar_josh@ns1.tcbug.org) Received: by ns1.tcbug.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 33AB3BADC; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:16:55 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:16:55 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Message-ID: <20040109101654.GA5860@ns1.tcbug.org> References: <20040107235737.I32227@pooker.samsco.home> <20040108075059.GK53429@silverwraith.com> <20040108075811.GJ48603@over-yonder.net> <20040108015954.V32598@pooker.samsco.home> <20040108101451.GK48603@over-yonder.net> <20040108033905.A32598@pooker.samsco.home> <20040108220249.GM48603@over-yonder.net> <3FFDDB7A.3000804@freebsd.org> <20040108233251.GP48603@over-yonder.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040108233251.GP48603@over-yonder.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:17:18 -0000 > > There are several documents linked off of http://www.freebsd.org/releng > > that describe how to build a release. It's not nearly as arcane of a > > process as it used to be 5 years ago. The biggest barrier to entry is > > probably disk space. You'll need a good 5GB free to hold the CVS repo, > > chroot environment, and resulting bits. > > Well, I've got the CVS repo, though boy, has *THAT* ever grown since I > built this system; I had to trim it down to only src and ports, and even > so: > /dev/da1s1e 2032623 1769089 100925 95% /usr/cvs > > Of course, I left out the ports and docs parts of the release last time I > tried (which was in fact about 5 years ago ;), though I had all kinda of > troubles with parts of THAT, too. But still, I don't have even a tenth > that much hard drive space around. > > > > Yes, to build the floppies you need to build most of the release, but > > once you've built the release, you can back-step and rebuild the > > floppies at will. > > And building the whole release is quite an ordeal on a Pentium Pro :) > > > Still, I'm willing to donate some time and brain to the problem, since > apparently I kinda care about it. It seems to me that the probing > problem above is the biggest problem from a real coding POV; the rest is > mostly just a whole heck of a lot of implementation, and "inconvenience" > from the usability standpoint. That's a breaking point. > > I'll donate the disk space and CPU time if you want to run with this. I have an interest in keeping floppies around, but not much ability to help out. Josh Paetzel