From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 29 21:11:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEC616A418 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gtodd@bellanet.org) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5270213C478 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gtodd@bellanet.org) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2556810pyb for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.14.18 with SMTP id r18mr1220595pyi.1188420192249; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.10.10.47? ( [198.62.158.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f77sm15523641pyh.2007.08.29.13.43.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46D5D92F.4070608@bellanet.org> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:38:07 -0400 From: Graham Todd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <46D4EFFF.5080807@fusiongol.com> <46D5B46D.5010202@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46D5B46D.5010202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Encrypted zfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:11:42 -0000 Christian Walther wrote: > Nathan Butcher wrote: >> Yep, using GELI the providers is much better. >> I decided to go one step further and run GLABEL on my drives so my ZFS >> pool will be immune from device enumeration issues (assuming I move the >> drives between systems, SATA raid cards, etc.) [...] > > AFAIK zfs is immune against device enumeration issues itself. There is a > nice video on YouTube showing Sun engineers setting up a ZFS pool on a > bunch of USB sticks. Afterwards they remove all of them, shuffle them, > and put them back in. No problem. > (It's in german and a translation is still missing. But the talk is > stupid anyway, and the acting of the engineers, too.) > This works on FreeBSD, too. As long as you "umount" the filesystem before you pull that USB key? Presumably panicking when a filesystem disappears is a limitation of both UFS and ZFS on FreeBSD :-) > I moved one of my disks to another controller. > ZFS recognised it on reboot. Really nice. :-) Truly having ZFS on FreeBSD *is* really nice. It's amazing how many people are testing and using it at this relatively early stage - probably more on FreeBSD than on Solaris! Kudos and thanks to Pavel for this work.