From owner-freebsd-current Sun Aug 3 07:24:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25920 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25915 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id XAA14181; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:54:11 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199708031424.XAA14181@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: from Ade Lovett at "Aug 3, 97 03:01:29 pm" To: ade@demon.net Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:54:11 +0930 (CST) Cc: hoek@hwcn.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ade Lovett stands accused of saying: > > The compartmentalised OS could be dealt with in a similar manner: > > bin/ > bin-base > bin-perl > bin-tcl > ... > bin-ALL > > No? Again; this has all been discussed before. If you strongly believe that something should be done, I humbly suggest that you should put your shoulder where your yapper is and commence a survey of the system in order to group the various components currently shipped as "bin" into a striaghtforward set of half a dozen or so functional groups. As a leader here, the following should be relatively straightforward : - core "basic" system binaries - uucp obvious - development tools for software development - text text-manipulation tools (eg man(1) and friends) - obscure weird stuff that people with beards and grey hair use - games obvious Then you might try a couple of overlapping sets : - posix an explicit "posix-only" footprint - SUS likewise for the "Singlue Unix Specification" I'm not suggesting you have to write the tools, or any of the infrastructure, purely and simply create, and _MAINTAIN_ these lists in a form that leads itself to public discussion of the groupings. This step is crucial to any further progress in this argument; without this work being done, we will achieve nothing. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[