From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 3 16:30:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD31106567A; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFF08FC1A; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n13GS9Xt045574; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:28:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:28:34 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20090203.092834.1062687916.imp@bsdimp.com> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20090203162309.GD33520@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20090203154013.GA33520@dragon.NUXI.org> <20090203.085631.-2006820702.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090203162309.GD33520@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r187132 - head/usr.bin/make X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:30:26 -0000 In message: <20090203162309.GD33520@dragon.NUXI.org> "David O'Brien" writes: : On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 08:56:31AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: <20090203154013.GA33520@dragon.NUXI.org> : > "David O'Brien" writes: : > : Warner made a baseless 10% performance claim and used it as the : > : bases for a commit. : > : > The claim was not baseless. It merely reflects results that were : > old. : : Where were the runtime numbers? The standard deviation? Ministat : output? Details of the machine run on? Information on the storage. : : You finally mentioned this was on FreeBSD 4.x, 5.2, and 6.0 build : machines. A lot has changed since November 2005. : : And you were timing non-j build's - yet your change was all about : parallel builds, it only affected 'make -j'. I'm done. Warner