From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 21 7:36:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841A637B425; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.qc.uunet.ca (mail2.qc.uunet.ca [198.168.54.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4B343E4A; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:36:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anarcat@espresso-com.com) Received: from xtanbul.studio.espresso-com.com ([216.94.147.57]) by mail2.qc.uunet.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26782; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:35:42 -0500 Received: from anarcat by xtanbul.studio.espresso-com.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18EtMS-0003Mo-00; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:35:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:35:23 -0500 From: The Anarcat To: Matthias Andree Cc: Nate Lawson , Matthias Andree , ports@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP - change in CDRIOC.*SPEED ioctl units Message-ID: <20021121153523.GA12403@xtanbul.studio.espresso-com.com> References: <20021121111557.GC6603@merlin.emma.line.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021121111557.GC6603@merlin.emma.line.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu Nov 21, 2002 at 12:15:57PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Nate Lawson wrote: > > > I'm not going to debate API since as I said before, the API is > > fundamentally limiting. It was written to support one program > > (burncd) and thus is overly restrictive. I took the approach of limiting > > the MMC set less, not adding another hack. > > If it's really only used by baseline programs, would not it be better > then to kill it altogether than shuffling it from one limited state to > another? Some people say that software optimization is complete when > there's nothing left to remove. I tend to agree for the maintenance > involved. Well, one could potentially say that this is what -current is for, API breakage/corrections. But I don't oppose the move, on the contrary. I agree with the correction since the only consumers of the API are the base tools. (do we have confirmation on that?) A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message