From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 20 19:35:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AFA106566B; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.64.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B315E8FC15; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBKJZGCx071505; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:35:16 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pBKJZGmb071504; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:35:16 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:35:16 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Brooks Davis Message-ID: <20111220193516.GE70684@glebius.int.ru> References: <4EEF0124.4000902@FreeBSD.org> <4EEF3B22.8010401@FreeBSD.org> <4EF0499D.4070000@FreeBSD.org> <4EF0AD19.2000603@FreeBSD.org> <20111220165134.GA68792@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <77311BF9-BD22-4567-B8FE-9CA0A99D4CA3@FreeBSD.org> <20111220193034.GC68792@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111220193034.GC68792@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-current , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Subject: Re: r228700 can't dhclient em0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:35:18 -0000 On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 01:30:34PM -0600, Brooks Davis wrote: B> I also worry about the problem that once you've installed world there is B> no easy way back. When working on the patch for last months I did numerous 'make installkernel installworld' switching between a patched sources and unpatched, and everything goes fine. B> If we can identify all the changed interfaces and we can teach 9-STABLE B> to deal with them then this change is probably OK and we just need to B> do the appropriate libc and ifconfig spackling and merge it. We can't B> let this slide too long though because the current state requires an B> installkernel+installworld for all intents and purposes and that means B> that if the kernel is broken you are dead in the water. B> B> I agree we could really use some sort of way forward that increases our B> abilty to make these sorts of changes. Why 9-STABLE? This change isn't going to be merged. -- Totus tuus, Glebius.