From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 3 12:22:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C3937B404 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic-mail.adaptec.com [208.236.45.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF75743FDF for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:22:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h33KKuZ06165; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:20:56 -0800 Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20692; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from btc.adaptec.com ([10.20.80.159]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13016; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 13:21:37 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3E8C97CE.3060205@btc.adaptec.com> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 13:21:34 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030206 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Emmerton References: <002901c2f9f5$e909c2f0$613818ac@craftmfg.com> <003b01c2fa01$257ac7b0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <001001c2fa0e$8dca5990$613818ac@craftmfg.com> <00ed01c2fa12$00534e10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> In-Reply-To: <00ed01c2fa12$00534e10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Bill Moran cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overall "feel" for the stability of FreeBSD 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 20:22:33 -0000 Matthew Emmerton wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Moran" > To: "Matthew Emmerton" ; > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:26 PM > Subject: Re: Overall "feel" for the stability of FreeBSD 5 > > > >>From: "Matthew Emmerton" >> >>>From: "Bill Moran" >>> >>>>I'm considering setting up a FreeBSD 5 machine as a dedicated >>>>backup/archive computer on a network I administer. >>>> >>>>I'm curious to hear some opinions on how wise this is. I know >>>>that 5 is still in a -CURRENT status and I've seen (and repeated) >>>>the warnings that it's not really production quality yet. >>>> >>>>So I'm curious as to a number of facets of its capibilities: >>>>1) With the current developmet effort ... does it seem like 5.1 >>>> will be -STABLE ... or do folks feel that a -STABLE brand >>>> is further off (5.2?) >>>>2) For a dedicated backup server, that can tolerate the >>>> performance problems that folks have been reporting, and >>>> won't upset the entire office if it panics on occasion, is 5 >>>> good enough at this point? >>>> >>>>I know this is inviting a lot of opinion and conjecture ... but I need >>>>some idea of where I can go with this. These folks need a solution >>>>soon, and I don't want to pass on something that's not ready yet. >>>>On the flip side, the nature of the beast means that it doesn't NEED >>>>to be a reliable as I normally expect a FreeBSD server to be, so >>>>there's a little more tolerance than usual. >>>> >>>>Any input is greatly appreciated. >>> >>>What's wrong with 4.8-RELEASE? >> >>Doesn't support DVD burning. >> >>Sorry ... forgot to specify my reasons ;) > > > What is the piece you're missing -- UDF filesystem support or ata driver > support? > The UDF support in 5.x is for reading only. DVD data disks do not require the UDF filesystem and can in fact work just fine with cd9660 or even UFS. DVD video disks usually require UDF as dvd players don't understand anything else, but editing and mastering a dvd video disk is well beyond the scope of this and I would highly recommend using a Mac. Burning some of the DVD formats requires special support, while others can be burned just like a CD. I thought that 4.x and 5.x were at the same level for this support, but Soeren would have the definitive answer. > I've seen patches to 4-STABLE to add UDF filesystem support. Perhaps that's > all you need. Really? I thought that the backporting effort had died out. Can you provide a link? Scott