From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 00:05:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B359D1065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D028FC19 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from 50.216.138.210.bn.2iij.net ([210.138.216.50] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L6ZoK-000617-Ig; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:05:16 +0000 Message-ID: <4931D8BA.4070304@psg.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:05:14 +0900 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <20081128234155.0221e263@serene.no-ip.org> <20081129174625.U70754@ury.york.ac.uk> <3cb459ed0811291342i524eaab3g1acadcd9cbdb638b@mail.gmail.com> <7d6fde3d0811291556g3f08a814td68466ad02dee4fc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7d6fde3d0811291556g3f08a814td68466ad02dee4fc@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Alexander Churanov Subject: Re: i give up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:05:20 -0000 yes, there are the supported devices that suck. e.g. the promise controller, when you want the deliver controller. freebsd performs as well on it as anything. but it is basically fragile hardwhere. randy