From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 13 05:23:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E0D16A418 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD3843D6A for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:23:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k5D5N7x18804; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Dale Rahn" Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:23:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060612184807.GA25574@panix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal Cc: misc@openbsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org Subject: RE: wikipedia article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:23:37 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Thor >Lancelot Simon >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:48 AM >To: Dale Rahn >Cc: misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >netbsd-users@netbsd.org >Subject: Re: wikipedia article > > >On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:23:06AM -0400, Dale Rahn wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 10:18:55PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: >> > On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> > > >> > >* IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD >> > >> > that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd >> > release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release. >> > >> >> However, NetBSD was a fork of 386BSD0.1+patchkit, where the group >> developing the patchkit became FreeBSD. > >ITYM "some of" the group; I don't know where things would end >up by total >lines of code contributed, but I'd say NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD might >well end up about even. If you really want to pick nits, I could point >out that the patchkit maintainers received a pre-release >snapshot of NetBSD >0.8 well before the FreeBSD release, portions of which were incorporated >into FreeBSD without proper credit; so it would be wholly reasonable to >call FreeBSD a "fork" of NetBSD 0.8. > Cool, which portions? >Does it really matter? This whole discussion seems like a deliberate >effort to dredge up old rivalries and create bad feeling. It is all >ancient, ancient history now. > That is absolutely rediculous and you are the one trying to cause bad feeling. Just because your bored with the discussion doesn't give you the right to start singing kumbiya and the GNU share the software song and wet all over the rest of us. History is interesting in of it's own right. There was a lot of emotion involved in creating the operating systems. Without that emotion driving people to do things, the OSes would not have got done. To try to minimize this is to cheat the newbies to the system today of the rich heritage, and replace it with bland tasteless cardboard. It's just like the stupid replacement of the FreeBSD Beastie logo with the sex-toy logo. Blah, bland tasteless. All of this happened over a decade ago and many of the players that were involved aren't involved in any of the OSs anymore in a significant way If your not mature enough to deal with reading about 10 year old controversy, I suggest you go back to your Bernstain Bears books and stop bothering the adults. Ted