From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Aug 21 12:31:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C87F37B400 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E317943E97 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawkeyd@visi.com) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0314A60; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:31:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7LJVGE02081; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:31:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hawkeyd) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:31:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200208211931.g7LJVGE02081@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 1.0c.0 Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com Organization: if (!FIFO) if (!LIFO) break; References: <20020819155109.GC89852_dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org@ns.sol.net> In-Reply-To: <20020819155109.GC89852_dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org@ns.sol.net> From: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) Subject: Re: Has the foretold fragmentation of Linux begun? X-Original-Newsgroups: sol.lists.freebsd.advocacy To: jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20020819155109.GC89852_dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org@ns.sol.net>, jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org writes: > > I think it's interesting that we have Red Hat, United Linux (with the > LSB stamp?), and now Sun rolling their own. > > It seems that this was part of the plan all along of these big > corporations, and this could lead to the exact same kind of > fragmentation that brought down Unix in the first place. Actually, I've long harbored the thought that for Linux to be _really_ perceived as a viable OS in the corporate world, there would first have to be one True Linux(tm). The LSB, and maybe United Linux, re-enforces my position. On the one hand, a "standard" that I believe must be adhered to (whether it be the LSB, or another, doesn't really matter). On the other, a merger of distributions. Extrapolating, there will be a wider "standard" encompassing more than just the filesystem, and yet more merging (and/ or dropping) of distributions. I rather think it funny, if not, ironic, as this will be a big blow to that vocal group of Linux zealots who deride FreeBSD for it's "structured" development model. There will have to be a group that decides these standards, as well as police and enforce them (think "Core"). There will be a trusted group to govern what actually makes it into the "source tree" (think "Committers"). And there will be One True Source - this is already coming into being, what with Linus adopting the use of a CVS-style repository. Or not. If not, I think Linux will be relegated to the less-than- critical servers of some businesses, and won't go much further than that. If so, Linux's development model will be something closely resembling that which FreeBSD has been for quite some time now. And it will be a better OS than the current development model (or lack thereof?) will allow. > Will the GPL help, hinder, or be irrelevant to prevent this? I think it will be irrelevant to your question, but I think it will be a hinderance to wider adoption by the corporate world. The [L]GPL already has, from what I've read. > NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed. Thanks. > jm Just my two-cents' worth, Dave -- Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message