From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 14:44:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B3916A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD7813C465 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J2pI5-0003U6-6c for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:43:58 +0000 Received: from jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi ([130.230.72.144]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:43:57 +0000 Received: from tuomov by jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:43:57 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Tuomo Valkonen Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <20071212213200.D576216A469@hub.freebsd.org> <200712121701.57460.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> <20071212183542.f9bf5e55.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <200712121930.46708.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> <20071213021217.GA3535@soaustin.net> <20071213080139.GA14110@soaustin.net> <20071213090833.GA15789@soaustin.net> <20071213090059.d5d6b6e7.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Debian) Sender: news Subject: Re: Ion3 removal (Re: Ion3 license violation) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:44:38 -0000 On 2007-12-13, Bill Moran wrote: > Did you not understand the part where Mark described the requirement to > avoid possible legal trouble? Which part of my reply did you not understand? And at least where I come from, contracts are legally enforceable, even if they're only oral ones -- which would certainly include permissions given on a public mailing list. > *) FreeBSD has agreed to remove the offending port in order to comply > with your license requirements. However, you continue to complain. And you continue to spread misinformation, which I want to correct. > *) _Anyone_ could submit a patch to the port to abide by your license > requirements and it's likely that it will be committed, yet > _nobody_ has. Wrong; see a recent post by the portmgr. > Even you, Tuomo, claim to have bold and revolutionary > ideas on package distribution yet would rather argue than WRITE A > PATCH AND SUBMIT IT! Beyond that, you've _IGNORED_ posts that I've > made in the past suggesting this. I have other things to do than learn yet another packaging system. Those things include fixing things in Ion3, so that a stable release could eventually be made. > *) You blame "distro folks" as abusing developers and expecting them > to just provide free work, then you turn around an complain that > the FreeBSD people should bend over backwards to accommodate the > software you wrote. You're doing the _exact_ thing you accuse > others of doing. As others have stated, it's not difficult to comply with the license. But people are getting paranoid. > *) You continually abuse this mailing list by twisting other persons > posts to your agenda by snipping relevant information, replying > only to the parts that you want to, and redirecting the meaning of > other posts. Good to hear you're not alone. > Please go somewhere that you can find emotional healing Tuomo. I, for > one, will be glad to see you return as a sane person but have no desire > to watch this thread continue as long as you're sick. Healthy mind in a healthy body. The social body of the FOSS movement is sick. -- Tuomo