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Subject: Re: Stopping the bloody cross posting.
In-Reply-To: <19980715141154.01595@welearn.com.au> from Sue Blake at "Jul 15, 98 02:11:55 pm"
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Sue Blake once stated:

=If it really were relevant to that many lists, it should go out just
=once, through freebsd-announce. If it's not appropriate for -announce,
=then it's not appropriate for more than two lists. In fact, I have yet
=to see a message that I regard as being appropriate for as many as two
=lists.

This is a practical observation, and does not eliminate the
theoretical possibility of the need to use more then two lists at
a time. Yes, the current shortcoming of available mailing list
software is indeed worked around by the careful crafting of the
mailing lists charters.

=There's no way you could make this work for me. I subscribe to the
=different lists under different user names, a few lists for each user.
=How are you going to stop me getting pissed off by your lazy-thinking
=crossposts? You can't.

Well, if you say in advance "there's no way you could make this
work for me" about _anything_ I would not even try. Please, consider
changing your tone, those are not my "lazy-thinking crossposts"...

=Regarding the cc to individuals, this is a practice which has become
=the habit of thousands of subscribers over a period of years. If that
=were changed, you would potentially be asking thousands of people to
=reconfigure their systems and/or change their habits.

The habits appeared as a result of lack of certain features in
the mailing list software. But there really is not much to change.
The CC-ed reply will go directly to the addressee. But the mailing
list software will not send a copy to the same person. If that
person wishes to file the message -- she/he is free to do so manually
or automaticly (his/her mail processing scripts can gather plenty
of info from the headers). Currently used software has an option of
NOT e-mailing a message to its sender if the sender is subscribed
to the list. Taking this further is only natural, IMHO...

=But most important of all, this is the preferred familiar method of the
=majority of those who contribute most to the FreeBSD project. That
=alone is good enough to cancel all arguments against it for me.

What about "the ability to innovate" ;-> ?

	-mi

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