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Date:      Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:26:03 -0500
From:      "Cameron Haegle" <chaegle@mediaone.net>
To:        "Lars Fredriksen" <lars@odin-corporation.com>, <bv@wjv.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Securing the root account
Message-ID:  <00e601c0f906$7b6c29a0$420fbf8f@hlc02>
References:  <008f01c0f8e5$fdca32a0$420fbf8f@hlc02> <20010619142141.C20724@wjv.com> <3B2FA0EE.11BB33B@odin-corporation.com>

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I want to thank everyone for their input on this issue. I will take
everyone's input into serious consideration, before I fo forward.

Thanks.....

Cam


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lars Fredriksen" <lars@odin-corporation.com>
To: <bv@wjv.com>
Cc: "Cameron Haegle" <chaegle@mediaone.net>; <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Securing the root account


> Very well put!
>
> Lars
> Bill Vermillion wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:33:44PM -0500, Cameron Haegle thus
> > sprach:
> >
> > > I come from the Windoze side of the playground, where you are able
> > > to rename the Administrator account name, in order to provide a
> > > bit more security.
> >
> > > Can a similar thing be done with FreeBSD?
> >
> > You could, but what you are proposing is the classic 'Security
> > through obsurity model'.  That never works.
> >
> > Root is a traditional account name since 1969, but it also maps to
> > user ID 0 as someone else mentioned.  Every system requires
> > a user ID 0 no matter whether it is root, larry, manny or moe.
> >
> > Make sure that no one can log in as root anywhere except at the
> > console.  You can even elminate root login at the console if your
> > system is not in a 10000% secure location :-)
> >
> > Then the only memember who can use root are those you put in the
> > 'wheel' group.
> >
> > Let's get back to UID 0 for a moment.  If anyone can get into that
> > machine, even if they don't have the ability to become super user,
> > and you have named your root account mxtylplx, then anyone on that
> > machine will know that is the admin account by listing any
> > directory in which used ID 0 has a file it owns.
> >
> > Don't putz around with security 'ideas'.  Do security in the right
> > manner.  Limit the wheel account users.  Make sure they keep their
> > login password secure, and keep the root password secure.
> >
> > Get rid of all telnet account and put in SSH so that no clear text
> > passwords ever cross the net.   That's just a small step on the
> > way, to locking down a system, but just changing login  names won't
> > do it.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> > Bill Vermillion -   bv @ wjv . com
> >
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