From nobody Wed Jan 19 22:06:27 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD671196E1D5; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x936.google.com (mail-ua1-x936.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::936]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JfKVF04H0z3Crm; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x936.google.com with SMTP id x33so7193522uad.12; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 14:06:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wogZa0MUXf0df0jj6VmEz0nTMWIgmFdHRAdraIilDOQ=; b=BQRGwpdicy5LhOQNiPnU0YtNQh4whGIJfyOdmaIyAW8QExep5tFCrSfGlB0txrhnWy NauvSex+VKBjILJt5pzeM6kbCw2n/Qh73V8oG43czmzHTXZmdLGXKMzOPIymLTOw/xwM R09jkfwV3nxCj1CCrOM2Q7wnf6RDYcTjpAmVCbPdkhlz4aX9byIJNWzdb1xPdmqPmgl7 ZCa0EABywalZAGQemOz7bp2G3tAnEYWLyU+lIvwAp6PzpyyOglDFi0+iSDTnoEb6yWiO WKwoI+7B05iuDE4Pku/TXj7xyiD347IiwLa5Usl+Yc295LCYDTH20PRhEBI5c6nB2GhD AXyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wogZa0MUXf0df0jj6VmEz0nTMWIgmFdHRAdraIilDOQ=; b=Y+9E2FAJgb3M4bp4QRo6o6dso7Y9Cl+kTBmeWJJrLWvw7OwQxAUDZNR/HkzHWOatW9 JLC995SUQV0E/w4jQ+m/TVXcmTKXzDHiht2GoAoTq7Has/QhqaCJCBri6CqCvun2dUc1 iIXiFa4XBPgvGAo1RDFs4a6aZ3x+OQ204DHIATkcHgFhpTrG1PfKLrgk+JGJzMQgI8Tf I98rhmQaOHm8IAq1e38fEWaPt5aBApGx4fhzprpc0fdzaivisDcNX8M31HReu0qAvNxR KJUBluwvNPXc9aoKPNZ1o0CcfTUqqurZZFzD4leRerR7ReUIXjP31kNfD60ETpSzuGc4 CDAg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5316B4n6pdcxbMt3N3kHVJHg/l8y/4xlcnrN74S0UtkViOJmLdJR GK2j1igVRCU/+iOt4j1tgUJbeFlDVmBxZFbKvWHspEQr8hDun/Zm X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyhrxkyXv8onCdpFds94/uW1/X/J8lT7A/aIMbPkv0rtl+2obXuIPRa6EGDeLaIl+iHH5Yn884yDd2fAp4seos= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:5489:: with SMTP id bk9mr12433145vsb.0.1642629988152; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 14:06:28 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a59:cda4:0:b0:278:7001:4412 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 14:06:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20220118235203.GJ35602@funkthat.com> From: grarpamp Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:06:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Intel + Thunderbolt Driver To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JfKVF04H0z3Crm X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=BQRGwpdi; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grarpamp@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::936 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grarpamp@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::936:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable,freebsd-advocacy,freebsd-chat]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 1/19/22, Gerard E. Seibert wrote: > FreeBSD's inability to support this technology will come back > to bite them in the ass. Even if writing drivers is not their thing, users can actually do a lot to help relieve such situations. Have people considered buying some snake traps or at least some Preparation-H at the shoppe below? And speaking to manufacturers to get #OpenDocs and more #OpenHW built on #OpenFabs. And dropping hints of the GoodNews of FreeBSD and passing that collection box around in all the surfaceweb fora where the unwashed bidet-needing masses congregate waiting to crowdfund a cute saintly daemon that could help lead them out of the dark walled-in lands of wintel? https://freebsdfoundation.org/donate/