From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 18:28:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8A316A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:28:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E8A43D49 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB9ISJbt097502; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:28:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jB9ISIO1097501; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:28:17 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Stijn Hoop Message-ID: <20051209182817.GY55657@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , secmgr , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20051208001857.68ac4fef.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20051208133100.GC912@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20051208194915.GC948@unixpages.org> <4398CA29.3070602@jim-liesl.org> <20051209093054.GF912@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051209093054.GF912@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 as storage server with raid5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:28:22 -0000 Stijn Hoop wrote this message on Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:30 +0100: > Besides, I've seen a few hardware RAID controllers having issues > themselves (and they weren't the cheapest ones available either). Yep, and because of failure to get proper vender support, software raid is looking more attractive to the company I work at... Delaying upgrades of the OS due to hardware raid issues, and then finding out that the ICP aka Adaptec no longer supports iir beyond 5.2-R (no 5.4-R or any 6.x and beyond) makes it harder for us to justify spending money on hardware raid. (who knows that the next brand of hardware raid isn't going to have the another issue, and decide to not provide support)... At least they finally released a new patch against 5.4-R, but we can barely get them to support us on 4.7-R (which has the same driver as 4.11-R), let alone when we had issues on 5.4-R... So, even though software raid may not be as reliable among other things, at least you have the source and can fix it, and don't have to wait many months just to wait longer for the vendor to fix the issue... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."