From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 20 19:39:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AD8106566B for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from io.chir0n@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAD98FC1C for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr16 with SMTP id r16so1393202ghr.13 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:39:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=PzfbowD9iF6omf1390W8sPeNneJUisTLAhpBTwwxRFo=; b=dySM+G21clXmMYw4Si78xKPN18B/NUZt9ZYsL/sgLXVjjeXh6Eb+T7d4iBd7OCRLwX 4PyaJ+rRX/NGBDv7/n3bSslqMu+BuI6M9mDUTArYORGRT9lwD5WwpRNLD63SRKsdB4bU 364T1/9uFUKYiVraBGcVkd0GTK1CzOdbgypQI= Received: by 10.101.127.1 with SMTP id e1mr1857244ann.42.1324409961095; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.41] ([201.22.249.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l11sm7722066anm.22.2011.12.20.11.39.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:39:20 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Chiron IO In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:40:10 -0200 Message-Id: References: <4EE1EAFE.3070408@m5p.com> <4EE2AE64.9060802@m5p.com> <4EE88343.2050302@m5p.com> <4EE933C6.4020209@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111215024249.GA13557@icarus.home.lan> <4EE9A2A0.80607@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <6140271.20111219122721@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4EEF3FF9.7070307@digsys.bg> <28E4047A-356A-4CCE-A134-9B24A7444806@gmail.com> To: Samuel J. Greear X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:39:22 -0000 http://wiki.freebsd.org/DefaultDebuggingKnobs I am not aware of any linux distribution that comes with debug enabled = by default, even on RC releases. It seems that this approach (debug by default) is welcome to help solve = problems that might appear, but I would be happy if these benchmarks = were made without such config (debug) enabled. On 20/12/2011, at 17:09, Samuel J. Greear wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Chiron IO = wrote: > Guys, >=20 > I have a question about these benchmarks. >=20 > Why worry about that if the CURRENT comes with debug enabled by = default? >=20 > = http://joaobarros.blogspot.com/2005/07/freebsd-how-to-turn-off-debug-optio= ns.html >=20 >=20 >=20 > In the real world problems happen and someone has to be able to, in = some fashion, identify and resolve those problems. As such, shipping = FreeBSD releases with INVARIANTS disabled is a mistake and any = benchmarks done without INVARIANTS enabled will fail to reflect most = reasonable real world use-cases. >=20 > Although these benchmarks cannot stand on their own merits for many = reasons, I do not see how any benchmark is automatically invalidated by = using the default development configuration. >=20 > Sam