Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:43:21 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Kurt Jaeger <pi@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r383978 - head/multimedia/handbrake Message-ID: <20150414084321.GC39658@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20150414081424.GA35984@FreeBSD.org> References: <201504140613.t3E6D48n077306@svn.freebsd.org> <20150414062552.GA1692@FreeBSD.org> <20150414073653.GH1017@f10.opsec.eu> <20150414074646.GA29265@FreeBSD.org> <20150414075025.GB39658@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20150414081424.GA35984@FreeBSD.org>
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--ZmUaFz6apKcXQszQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:14:24AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:50:26AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 07:46:46AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > Seriously though, gtk20 is being far better than gtk3 ATM. gtk3 is s= low > > > and crappy, and just one major regression compared to gtk20 (with a f= ew > > > exceptions like touch devices support). > > >=20 > > > Some projects that had switched to gtk3 at first later regret this > > > decision and returned under gtk20 sanity. > >=20 > > Beside a lot of complains about gtk3 most projects using gtk2 aims at > > switching to gtk3 :) >=20 > I hope they reconsider; Audacious' example [1] should be studied and less= on > learned. If you cannot stay with gtk20 (the are very few technically sou= nd > reasons, but let's assume you *are* unhappy with gtk20) then switch to Qt, > or FLTK, Motif, etc. Going gtk30 is troublesome for developers and quite > rude for users. >=20 > > This storry sounds pretty much like the old time of gtk1 -> gtk2 >=20 > Not really; gtk20 did bring several substantial improvements over gtk12; > most notably UTF-8 and better rendering support, antialiased fonts, more > useful widgets. It was noticeably slower than gtk12, but not even close > to the point when it becomes annoying. (Plethora of warnings that start > flooding your terminal window when you run most GTK+ applications is more > annoying.) >=20 > gtk30 is mostly uncalled for, except for gestures/multitouch support; yet > its poor performance multiplies everything by zero. >=20 > ./danfe >=20 You do forgot that they keeps breaking things within gtk3 branches :) gtk12 still have lot of people trying to keep it forever because it was lig= ht :) I do remember lots of discussions back in the time about people trying very= very hard to keep gtk12 as long as possible claiming gtk2 is just crap and bloat Things hasn't changed much in my point of view :) note that I do personnally have no opinion on gtk2 and/or gtk3 support here, just finding fun the same things seems to happen again and again. Best regards, Bapt --ZmUaFz6apKcXQszQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlUs0ykACgkQ8kTtMUmk6ExNTwCfdfgQTLDav59yyFwB8LhoG5S1 x+0An0Rs2gIhsHoPEyvyxVy17+iA3SSV =819F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZmUaFz6apKcXQszQ--
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