From owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sat Dec 19 13:33:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D0B4C7E0C for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CymsX0Rwpz3k3s for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0D7A74C7E0B; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: multimedia@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D42D4C7B9F for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CymsW6tR6z3k12 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF3A01E3BA for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 0BJDXpab027865 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:51 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 0BJDXpQ3027864 for multimedia@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:51 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 251916] multimedia/mpv: enable pulseaudio by default Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:51 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: zetrotrack000@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback? X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:33:52 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D251916 --- Comment #8 from Zetro Track --- (In reply to Jamie Landeg-Jones from comment #7) Thanks for your reply. I will definitely check "make package". But, actuall= y I am not worried about myself because I can build mpv from ports. I am more concerned about my students. I am a Teacher in an Educational Institute. Besides my usual job, I am also teaching Linux System Administration on voluntary basis (as a hobby project= ). However, for some time, I am getting frustrated by the chaos in the Linux W= orld (lack of coherence, distros, fhs, package managers etc.). So I am planning = to gradually move all my systems from Linux to Unix (FreeBSD). I am not only moving myself towards FreeBSD, but also trying to take my students with me. However, unlike me, almost all of my students came from Windows background,= and expect similar functionality in other OSes (Android and Windows like OSes a= re making new generations lazy and dumb). Many years ago, the student dropout from my course was high (due to lack of proper support in Linux). But, due to increased support (in last few years), this dropout rate has decreased dramatically and now more and more students stick with Linux. Now, as I am trying to move my students towards FreeBSD, the same thing is happening here due to lack of certain things. Presently, it is very difficu= lt to keep students motivated due lack of few things (especially Multimedia/Games/Entertainment stuff which may not be much important for us, but the young people want it badly). For instance, I advised some of my students to install FreeBSD in VirtualBox. But all of them came back with complains (e.g related to lack of Pulseaudio). So, I guided them about compiling mpv and other multimedia softwares from Ports and add Pulseaudio support. However, installing mpv (from Ports) will create further problems, i.e. when any of them will upgrade his system (pkg upgrade), his/her Pulse support will be gone. So, in order to fix this problem they have to lock the package. A kind of cat and mouse game. The story does not end here, and whenever any of my student will install FreeBSD in VirtualBox, he/she will come back (to me) with Pulseaudio compla= in. As I am teaching them Linux for many years, I know that how easily students= get demotivated and move back to their previous OS. So, that's why I am request= ing to enable Pulseaudio support in Ports, so that I can keep my students motiv= ated and stick to FreeBSD. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=