From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 08:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201A037B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vhost109.his.com (vhost109.his.com [216.194.225.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47F143FCB for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (localhost.his.com [127.0.0.1]) by vhost109.his.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5IFbZtS090412; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:37:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3EF083B6.8070902@potentialtech.com> References: <3EEFC568.70900@potentialtech.com> <20030618105019.GR20204@iconoplex.co.uk> <3EF07317.4060307@potentialtech.com> <20030618143744.GZ20204@iconoplex.co.uk> <3EF083B6.8070902@potentialtech.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:37:24 +0200 To: Bill Moran From: Brad Knowles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice on how to straighten out a crappy ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:37:45 -0000 At 11:22 AM -0400 2003/06/18, Bill Moran wrote: > Unfortunately, no, there is nobody else. This is a VERY old >neighborhood, and > the high-quality ISP that I would like to use (city-net) can't get DSL into > my neighborhood because the phone lines haven't been upgrade in 30 years (not > exagerating ... sometimes the line quality is so bad I can't send faxes). > Nobody else can get DSL in here either, and only Adelphia has cable. Pulsnet > is the only one providing wireless, and I refuse to go back them >(last I checked, > they still hadn't corrected their DNS) I haven't checked satellite >yet, could > be possible. The best solution may be to set up your own neighborhood co-op ISP. Get together with the other people in the area, and offer to help provide Internet access to them. Even if you can't get SDSL, you should be able to get a T-1 or fractional T-1, which you could then share with your neighbors via 802.11b or 802.11g. You could then look at additional options for high-bandwidth (but high latency) downstream access such as satellite (with asymmetric routing via your T-1/Frac. T-1), or other alternative additional feeds. I'd be willing to bet that once there was an option with real competition in the area, things with all the other providers would suddenly and mysteriously improve. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)