From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 20:20:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3597116A404 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBE513C458 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (obsolete.xs4all.nl [82.95.250.254]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l35KJvtF030208; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 22:19:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l35KJM7l025429; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 22:19:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l35KJMwQ025428; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 22:19:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 22:19:22 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20070405201921.GA25415@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <86zm5nrllc.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070405.140150.59738522.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070405.140150.59738522.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: des@des.no, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, nikolas.britton@gmail.com Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:20:03 -0000 On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 02:01:50PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote.. > > So I come back to the question of why we have external devices from > > 1987 still floating around in the kernel and more importantly why > > these devices are enabled by default in the GENERIC kern conf? > > Because they work and are necessary. If you don't know that, I'll > echo Kris' "Thank you for the input" and be done with it. By far the best answer to this thread-aka-time-sink I have seen sofar. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org