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To: Zhihao Yuan <lichray@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD
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In message <CAGsORuAnDs_E=L747+tP95NxjxDonNsQfVfCo+xd2HjSJ-uOnA@mail.gmail.com>
, Zhihao Yuan writes:
>On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
>> In message <BLU0-SMTP510B16745B704C714268E2D5950@phx.gbl>, Lorenzo Cogotti writ
>> es:
>>>Hi,
>>>I was wondering about the possibility of FreeBSD to provide an official
>>>supported graphical environment.
>>
>> We already do:  It's called "X11" :-)
>
>How about Wikipedia "graphical environment" before u say this?

How about you try to install ports/x11-vm/twm, turn your CPU
speed down to 20 MHz and get a good feel for how a graphical
environment felt 25 years ago, before you make a fool of yourself ?

:-)

There is no way that FreeBSD is going to annoint a canonical
window manager (look that up too!), we've been down that road
before and the landscape is ugly and filled with bikesheds.

My suggest was 100% serious:  Assume X11 _is_ the graphical
environment, pick a toolkit which is written to work with
any window manager, which all good toolkits are, and move on.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.