From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 12:39:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE82B16A4CF; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:39:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (www1.multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE6543D77; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from vader ([212.135.219.179]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.1.R) with ESMTP id md50001377765.msg; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:35:52 +0100 Message-ID: <00ba01c54fdd$24ad96d0$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Robert Watson" , "Danny Braniss" References: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:39:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 03 May 2005 13:35:52 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.179 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 03 May 2005 13:35:54 +0100 cc: c0ldbyte cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: 5.4-STABLE corrupting fs on shutdown -p now? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:39:48 -0000 So sounds like this does need a bit of looking at. The key thing is both reboot and halt always leave the machine FS in a good state where as shutdown -p doesnt so is there something that -p skips? Or is it simply the fact that it powers down? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Braniss" >> >> I have a "HDD Post Write Buffer" in the BIOS according to the MB manual >> >> although the disks aren't connected to the MB controllers they are on RAID >> >> 5 set off a PCI-X card. Will give it a go tomorrow ( drag the monitor >> >> back to the rack ). Will this have any performance penalties? I could >> >> just avoid using shutdown -p but it seems a bit dodgy what its doing. >> >> If this machine where miles away without remote console it would have >> >> caused major amounts of pain. >> > >> > Why would you use shutdown -p on a remote machine anyway. I could see >> > possibly a shutdown -r but -p come on. >> >> I use it regularly -- for remote boxes that are in someone else's >> facility, I'd much rather I was the one who powered them off and told them >> when they were ready to unplug than having them do it. Life is a bit >> better with the advent of soft power via case power buttons, but still... >> >> Robert N M Watson > > I _always_ use it, specialy when the box in question is headless, or via KVM, > or im too lazy to get up and switch the power off :-) ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk.