From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 18:35:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DBE5AE for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-x22c.google.com (mail-qc0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44F3C272E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l13so6372797qcy.17 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CL7QHQLVhGHPocw9GYr5uvwV20V78acuTzExbhdIjiE=; b=FWRCZKhGBw3hSjbJRq/sAROOzOF8FjLlRxkJyC++jyCvGFIX1sLk3gCTeYzQRd5fZ8 Q/HzIjJGObsX2qoTp+1SuWzeA70lrM5wZVqXiHsOkDOpF/bRfTD07t040w+chEP6Zxwj mDcOMhqBpSgnOPOl+PSBf4TSCPnMURUkUaOtjaH3BIp9bx1EZ+0wROPrbaDcgeUFA/ZJ EMmcg43vPxkyxxbJH+0jPzIr+AXEhvyypY5U6LXsZlzMn2iixgT/wPZRMmhswKr1YPTY 99YPA9jzrsy1d3aNSp5uo88GAKfFe07IZ76DLmFdIi/G0BLsj7VbKl1xsf4/T5raAXYX ErUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.125.4 with SMTP id w4mr5772560qar.75.1381257319356; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.39.33 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52542E1D.9000000@mu.org> References: <60177810-8DC4-4EA3-8040-A834B79039D2@orthanc.ca> <52538EDC.2080001@freebsd.org> <52541202.3010707@mu.org> <20131008.170444.74714516.sthaug@nethelp.no> <52542BD4.5070706@FreeBSD.org> <52542E1D.9000000@mu.org> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:35:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rcs From: Freddie Cash To: Alfred Perlstein Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD-Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:35:20 -0000 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > You're right on the money, to be honest this is one of the reasons why > I've switched to using OSX as my desktop OS. > > zsh, vim, screen by default. and upgrades work. At the end of the day > I'm spending time doing work, not mucking about my workspace to make it > usable for development. > > I think this was brought up at BSDCan in the discussion about making > FreeBSD a more featured development platform. > > Speaking of... has anyone tried PCBSD? PC-BSD isn't much different from FreeBSD. The installer is GUI and support ZFS, there are some GUI setup tools on first boot for X, there are some GUI tools to select binary drivers for X, and there =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Bare worki= ng pkgng repos available. I had a lot of issues with PC-BSD 9.0 and 9.1 as I was trying to do things "the FreeBSD way" which broke a lot of things that were done "the PC-BSD way" (aka don't manually edit config files used for booting). =E2=80=8BSwitching to the "rolling-release" (aka PC-BSD 9-STABLE) and movin= g all my config file edits into .conf.local fixed my issues. Things have been running smooth, and I finally understand the beauty and simplicity of freebsd-update + pkg. OS gets updated once per month, packages get updated twice per month, no more compiling things from source. It's like using Ubuntu/Debian but with the power and features of FreeBSD. :) =E2=80=8B --=20 Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com