From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 20:52:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 501C8409 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 20:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x233.google.com (mail-ob0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AE742943 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 20:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id vb8so146564obc.10 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 13:52:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Wid/Clx88pSjipTppvJsQtMe3KUsfgyL5YJUxHeeT0=; b=PmRLMHxFHLM6RpfCauKlslbnT2kili6ynMRntHyFnk4UGLy162V9tEJpEI2NMxaDl/ 2UE6xFJeIdDB/QyZmiIfVqShq/3gk+TkRJni/DfQggjT23lK3GsJF2qHGYlcAcPbP/xh Wq+g8+l7t6CJY7ZEdYmEgeJoFsHvw+Q7nUu76lHaD5EO2uMceIERO1VpkCsewDg2HSep j5s+oASXft0jDKQ79/JCJXK4s1PsTkt7MCV0GneO1l/p2KDMurTEovJOZLjYQcVungsQ zbn6vve5ZMmxCCM5iXgTyZCPihBbxFdemZq7OaRXDQ5Bhfc6ire17YbZkCTax+viSTKp lT2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.66.170 with SMTP id g10mr5877461obt.49.1400100745045; Wed, 14 May 2014 13:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.171.131 with HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2014 13:52:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140514222320.cce7c921.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140514222320.cce7c921.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 16:52:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Firefox will adapt closed source DRM From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 20:52:26 -0000 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2014 14:44:48 -0400, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Dear folks, >> >> Firefox will adapt DRM stuff into it. Can it be turned off, i.e, when >> compiling it? >> or do we simply move on to another browser? > > That would not help much. Many users have "Flash" installed, > which is also closed source and implements DRM as well. Such > kind of plugins, usually video players or gaming interfaces, > have been used by websites for at least a decade to restrict > the access to the content. > > Now that there seems to be a W3C "consensus" of making such > functionality part of HTML, there's hardly a way around it. > If Firefox does not implement the restriction management within > its "HTML engine", it will appear to the user that "the web > is broken", which (of course) is a fault of the browser, so > in order to see the dancing bunnies, he will switch to a > different browser which applies the restriction management > accordingly. And if this functionality is only available or > legal in proprietary (non-open, non-free) form, then it's > basically the same approach as installing a "Flash" plugin. > > I don't want to sound impolite, but following this trend is > the only chance of Firefox to "stay in the game". :-( > > > > More inspiration here: > > http://andreasgal.com/2014/05/14/eme/ > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... I dont have flash. IT is a resource hog! CPU hovers to 90%+ levels. If I want to see a youtube video, I use youtube script https://calomel.org/youtube_wget.html I don=C8=9B trust flash on my pc and I don=C8=9B want to have flash enabled here. So I wonder if firefox would give the option to enable that stuff or not. I agree with you in the stay in the game part of firefox. But could not they do it with HTML5? why is DRM so important that it is needed so much as to stain an otherwise decent web browser. Best Regards, Antonio