From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 19:16:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D2537B401; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE3143F85; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h762GpFL028827; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 20:16:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 20:16:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030805.201621.91001367.imp@bsdimp.com> To: grog@FreeBSD.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030806020257.GL95375@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030806014141.GI95375@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030806020257.GL95375@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: simokawa@FreeBSD.org cc: simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/firewire firewire.c firewire.h firewirereg.h fwdev.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 02:16:55 -0000 In message: <20030806020257.GL95375@wantadilla.lemis.com> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: : On Wednesday, 6 August 2003 at 10:59:39 +0900, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: : > At Wed, 6 Aug 2003 11:11:41 +0930, : > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: : >> : >> On Monday, 4 August 2003 at 20:11:39 -0700, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: : >>> simokawa 2003/08/04 20:11:39 PDT : >>> Log: : >>> Change device name notation. : >>> - /dev/fw{,mem}X.Y represents the Y'th unit on the X'th bus. : >>> - /dev/fw{,mem}X is an alias of fw{,mem}X.0 for compatibility. : >> : >> Just out of interest, how compatible is this with NetBSD and OpenBSD? : > : > As far as I know, they use very different code base from ours. : : Yes, I've heard that too, at least in the case of NetBSD. That in : itself isn't an issue. It would be nice to have some compatibility in : the way it's used at user level. Looking at NetBSD's MAKEDEV from a few days ago shows that NetBSD doesn't expose firewire nodes as devices to userland. So there's nothing to be compatible with. Also, I'm not aware of many (any?) applications that talk directly to the firewire devices, except for the dumb console replacement that is the primary reason I know anything at all about firewire :-). I'd check the man pages, but I can't seem to find any firewire man pages in NetBSD current either. Warner