From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 10:42:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC76616A417 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@moneybookers.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABC813C46A for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@moneybookers.com) Received: by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id ACE8C1B10EF2; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:42:03 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on blah.cmotd.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from hater.haters.org (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ABC1B10EF1; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:42:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4753DD78.1080209@moneybookers.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:42:00 +0200 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony Mawer References: <200712021502.37344.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <2a41acea0712021734l32e73d64jd34272a23e487c8@mail.gmail.com> <47536C03.50200@tundraware.com> <4753738F.3010208@mawer.org> In-Reply-To: <4753738F.3010208@mawer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4980/Mon Dec 3 03:28:55 2007 on blah.cmotd.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: tundra@tundraware.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel S3000AH stall on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:42:05 -0000 Hi, Antony Mawer wrote: > On 3/12/2007 1:37 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> Jack Vogel wrote: >>> On Dec 1, 2007 8:32 PM, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I am doing some work for a company that recently bought 2 systems >>>> based >>>> on the above motherboard and mostly they work fine, however on boot >>>> just before userland starts they stall for about a minute. (Just after >>>> it starts the second CPU). It's 2 minutes for me, but I see this on Dell's PE2850 (2 years old). It seems that the problem starts after I installed a Dell's remote access controller card. This card have support for virtual CD and virtual floppy, so I'll try to disable it from the card, as setting hint.fdc.0.disabled="1" does not help at all. I see this problem on FreeBSD 7 and 6.3-prerelease. >>> >>> Did you happen to check if during that time the floppy disk is being >>> accessed? >>> If it is just reconfig the kernel with that device out and the hang >>> won't happen. >>> >>> That is the only hang that I've seen that lasts that long. >>> >>> Jack >> >> >> Or you can just turn it off in the BIOS to avoid having to fiddle >> with the >> kernel. *Why* this is happening is of more interest to me. ISTM that >> the kernel startup logic should be able to detect a floppy drive with no >> disk in it and move on promptly. I believe this because that is exactly >> what 4.x did ... well, now that I think about it, I never tried 4.x on >> the Intel MOBO that is causing this aggravation here.... > > Another "me too". We saw this and wound up removing the floppy drive > from the systems in order to avoid this lengthy delay on boot - we > weren't using them anyway and it saved a whole $5 or so on the > hardware costs... ;-) > > I seem to recall it was not purely a 6.x thing - as I'm sure that we > have plenty of 6.x machines with FDDs that don't exhibit this hang - > but it was only newer Intel motherboards (I think 9xx series onwards) > that we were seeing the issue on... > > --Antony > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177