From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 22:46:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C9B106566B for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 22:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s8.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s8.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D278FC0C for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 22:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP202 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s8.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:46:46 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.109.142.1] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([174.109.142.1]) by BLU0-SMTP202.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:46:45 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Q5wrg70jlz2CG4h for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:46:43 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20110408215052.GA20633@guilt.hydra> References: <4D9EF6CD.3040004@qeng-ho.org> <4D9F48F8.9000008@qeng-ho.org> <20110408191152.GB19718@guilt.hydra> <20110408211511.GA11735@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20110408215052.GA20633@guilt.hydra> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Apr 2011 22:46:45.0294 (UTC) FILETIME=[D63D54E0:01CBF63E] Subject: Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:46:47 -0000 On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:50:52 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 11:15:11PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: > > > > > > > > section 8.6 starts: > > > > > > > > ---- start quote ---- > > > > Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the > > > > sender and to FreeBSD-questions. > > > > ---- end quote ---- > > > > > > I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do > > > *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have > > > yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to > > > the mail from the list. > > > > > > I consider "not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to > > > the list" a "good reason to do otherwise". > > > > You seem to miss one crucial fact: Not all the people who write to > > this list are subscribed to it. They will not see any replies > > directed only to the list. It is for their benefit that that rule > > exists. > > You seem to fail to realize that it's possible to CC someone who > isn't on the list, but not CC someone who *is* on the list. That > would be why people who aren't members of the list say thinks like > "please CC me", while people who are members occasionally say "please > don't send duplicates to me". The solution to this problem is so obvious that I am amazed that no one has proposed it. Simply require the poster to be subscribed to the list. Other high quality lists, such as but not limited to Postfix have that requirement in place. If a potential poster is either too stupid or too lazy to subscribe then that is their problem. For the record, I have subscribed to lists before simple to post one question. Upon receiving an answer, I terminated my subscription. I did not feel the least bit inconvenienced. -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. __________________________________________________________________