From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 16:08:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D1C106564A; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAB78FC08; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 63.imp.bsdimp.com (63.imp.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAEFwCan068883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:58:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20111114094223.GE80782@e-new.0x20.net> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:58:07 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20111110123919.GF2164@hoeg.nl> <4EBC4B6E.4060607@FreeBSD.org> <20111111112821.GP2164@hoeg.nl> <4EBDC06F.6020907@FreeBSD.org> <20111112103918.GV2164@hoeg.nl> <4EBF0003.3060401@FreeBSD.org> <20111113091940.GX2164@hoeg.nl> <4EC04B65.4030801@FreeBSD.org> <20111114092922.GA2164@hoeg.nl> <20111114093322.GB2164@hoeg.nl> <20111114094223.GE80782@e-new.0x20.net> To: Lars Engels X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:58:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: Ed Schouten , Doug Barton , arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The strangeness called `sbin' X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:08:08 -0000 On Nov 14, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Lars Engels wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:33:22AM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: >> * Ed Schouten , 20111114 10:29: >>> But now the question remains how we should change the default >>> partitioning. I think default installations place home directories = in >>> /usr/home, with a symlink from /home. Should they now be placed in >>> /usr/local/home? >>=20 >> Oh wait. It seems the new FreeBSD installer by default only writes a = / >> and a swap. Then this comment can be ignored. >=20 > It does, but that was not a democratic decision, AFAIK... At the time, it was also *EXPLICITLY* stated that this wasn't a grab to = moving things out of /usr, or changing that. There's a fair amount of = infrastructure that depends on the separation and while it wouldn't be = hard to separate it out, there's likely a non-zero amount of work to = getting it all right. That's a *MUCH* bigger deal than collapsing /*bin = into /bin or /usr/*bin into /usr/bin. Ed: Have you tested nanobsd, tinybsd and picobsd with even the modest = changes you posted earlier? Warner