Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 04:38:58 +0100 From: Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org> To: Martin Wilke <miwi@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Christoph Moench-Tegeder <cmt@burggraben.net>, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r490910 - in head: Mk Mk/Uses mail/thunderbird www/firefox www/firefox-esr www/firefox-i18n www/firefox/files www/palemoon www/seamonkey Message-ID: <zhrs-avql-wny@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc> (Martin Wilke's message of "Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:17:42 %2B0800") References: <201901212303.x0LN3jR3059519@repo.freebsd.org> <CAGBxaX=T7SvB6Ncm-0Drt1-HLED92xKuJ-LRvg%2BYsDFKrYCp4A@mail.gmail.com> <CAGBxaXmOibxw_q5Ev34oyiCetNRqNVLNY5VjQrJZFEFTy6nDhg@mail.gmail.com> <o989-8nt8-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190122100911.GA77378@elch.exwg.net> <d0oo-fn3l-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190122205210.GA2480@elch.exwg.net> <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc>
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Martin Wilke <miwi@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 09:52:11PM +0100, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote:
>
>> ## Jan Beich (jbeich@FreeBSD.org):
>>
>> > Looking at Try options[1] and automation[2] I'm not sure WAYLAND=off is
>> > tested nowadays. In www/firefox WAYLAND=off has no effect[3] unless
>> > x11-toolkits/gtk30 also has WAYLAND=off. I've reported the issue
>> > upstream[4] but for now just locally remove files/patch-bug1514156.
>> > If there's no fix in sight after actual release on 2019-01-29 then
>> > the patch can be moved under WAYLAND_EXTRA_PATCHES.
>>
>> I personally don't mind having the wayland stuff around - from
>> the log I gather I disabled it quite some time ago because it
>> broke something ("glx/dri/whatever", sic) back in the days.
>> Now it just works. And firefox 65 works, too.
>>
>> Given that WAYLAND is the default for us, and "without wayland"
>> might be untested anyways - would it make sense to remove the
>> WAYLAND option and force it to "on" always?
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, WAYLAND is a X replacement which is not really working with FreeBSD atm.
x11-wm/sway works, except on x11/nvidia-driver. No clue about others.
GDK_BACKEND=wayland is default in Gtk3 if running under Wayland, except
www/firefox. QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl and SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland
often work fine but not default. Lots of X11 apps work under Xwayland
e.g., www/seamonkey, editors/emacs, x11/xterm.
> Why should I/We install it when we dont use it? For me the only thing it does is increasing build time,
> and for minimal desktops a useless dependency. Its already absurd enough to have 2 CLANG versions
> on a desktop.
For minimal X11 desktops a lot of stuff is useless e.g., D-Bus per bug 194460
but accessibility/orca needs D-Bus. I suspect all Wayland-specific dependencies
*combined* don't reach the build time of a single devel/llvm*.
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