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Date:      Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:05:53 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      sos@freebsd.org
To:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 2.2-961006-SNAP keyboard lockup
Message-ID:  <199610180805.KAA13462@ra.dkuug.dk>
In-Reply-To: <199610180727.JAA25957@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Oct 18, 96 09:27:41 am

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In reply to J Wunsch who wrote:
> 
> As Nate Williams wrote:
> 
> > I can also lockup vty switching by attempting to switch out of X before
> > it's completely initialized, which confuses the heck out of syscons.  If
> 
> This is an artifact of the way how VT switching in X11 is handled (the
> so-called ``process mode'' of the VT).  The keyboard lockups are most
> likely bus arbitration failures for the keyboard bus.  The keyboard bus
> has been designed to be uni-directional, and abused as a bi-directional
> bus later.  There's no hardware support for an arbitration protocol,
> this is what makes it a fairly hard job to get it right.

I'd say almost impossible job...

> > it's any consolation, the *exact* same behavior occurs under SCO, so
> > syscons is doing a pretty good job of emulating both the good and bad
> > features of the SCO console driver. :)

Should I take that as a compliment ?? :)

Actually this is a bitch to solve, none of my machines (or the collection
of strange kbd controllers I have), exhibits this lockup behavior, so
I have no chances for finding a solution to this, but be assured that
if I get ahold of hardware with the problem I'll hunt it, its real annoying...

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Soren Schmidt             (sos@FreeBSD.org)             FreeBSD Core Team
               So much code to hack -- so little time.



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