From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Apr 20 22:18:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BC8D48F55 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85269251 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 818E4D48F53; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8115AD48F52; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (prod2.absolight.net [79.143.243.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42166250; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:18:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0BDBDC89; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 00:18:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from atuin.in.mat.cc (atuin.in.mat.cc [79.143.241.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E37BBDC85; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 00:18:55 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: manpath change for ports ? To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Koop Mast , portmgr@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org References: <20170306235610.cmpxk27jhoafel6l@ivaldir.net> <1492723094.55896.22.camel@FreeBSD.org> <20170420212153.cawvn4xsxuwuebfu@ivaldir.net> <20170420221631.yxukhuwo4tn7blte@ivaldir.net> From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: Absolight / The FreeBSD Foundation Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 00:18:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170420221631.yxukhuwo4tn7blte@ivaldir.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NSPFsim5tGUQ4qiAXaBueWBP9ltCk5QLS" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:18:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --NSPFsim5tGUQ4qiAXaBueWBP9ltCk5QLS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="SvU7srde9mTECapXNjHKcOugCkKahIbr3"; protected-headers="v1" From: Mathieu Arnold To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Koop Mast , portmgr@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: manpath change for ports ? References: <20170306235610.cmpxk27jhoafel6l@ivaldir.net> <1492723094.55896.22.camel@FreeBSD.org> <20170420212153.cawvn4xsxuwuebfu@ivaldir.net> <20170420221631.yxukhuwo4tn7blte@ivaldir.net> In-Reply-To: <20170420221631.yxukhuwo4tn7blte@ivaldir.net> --SvU7srde9mTECapXNjHKcOugCkKahIbr3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: fr Le 21/04/2017 =C3=A0 00:16, Baptiste Daroussin a =C3=A9crit : > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:13:52AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Le 20/04/2017 =C3=A0 23:21, Baptiste Daroussin a =C3=A9crit : >>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:18:14PM +0200, Koop Mast wrote: >>>> On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 00:56 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to propose a change in the localbase hier for ports >>>>> >>>>> I think we should add /usr/local/share/man in the manpath along wit= h >>>>> at first >>>>> and maybe instead of in long term. >>>>> >>>>> The reason is: >>>>> - /usr/local/share/man seems more consistent to me with base which >>>>> have: >>>>> /usr/share/man >>>>> - It will remove lots of patches from the ports tree where were we >>>>> need to patch >>>>> upstream build system to install in a non usual path. >>>>> >>>>> My proposal is to add to the manpath /usr/local/share/man in defaul= t >>>>> man(1) >>>>> command in FreeBSD 12 (MFCed to 11-STABLE) >>>>> >>>>> and either provide an errata for 11.0/10.3 or a >>>>> /usr/local/etc/man.d/something.conf via a port or something like th= at >>>>> for those >>>>> two, what do you think? >>>>> >>>>> For the same reason I would like to allow porters to stop patching >>>>> (with pathfix >>>>> or anything else) the path for pkgconfig files and allow >>>>> /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig along with the current >>>>> /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig:/usr/libdata/pkgconfig >>>>> >>>>> Which will also remove tons of hacks from the ports tree. >>>>> >>>>> What do you think? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Bapt >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I recently committed the USES for the meson build system to ports. T= his >>>> USES configures the meson build system with some default variables >>>> which includes the location of the man pages. This setting is just a= >>>> flag to the meson command so it easy to change. >>>> >>>> Meson also handles the generation and installation of pkg-config fil= es >>>> that a port wants. The problem is that this is handled by the script= >>>> itself and there is no way to configure it, so we need to hack the >>>> meson port to change it from lib/pkg-config to libdata/pkg-config li= ke >>>> we currently are using. (1) Or add a hack to meson.mk to move the pk= g- >>>> config to the right location (evil++ imho). >>>> >>>> My point I want to make is that currently there is only 1 port build= >>>> via the meson system (graphics/graphene). Should we change man/pkg- >>>> config file locations now, it very easy. If we want to change them >>>> later we will need to mass bump every meson build port. It is import= ant >>>> to note that GStreamer and GNOME are moving over to using meson inst= ead >>>> of autotools and that Wayland, Xorg en Mesa are exploring want is >>>> needed to make the switch. So I think it important that the decision= >>>> what to do is done now and that we stick with it. >>>> >>>> Reading the rest of the thread it seems nobody is really against the= >>>> proposed change of man and pkg-config path's. So how does one submit= a >>>> policy change like this? I'm also not sure I'm the right person to p= ush >>>> this, I just got back from a break and I don't want to really deal w= ith >>>> something super high profile right away. >>>> >>>> -Koop >>>> >>>> (1) I would like to see lib/pkg-config back in the search path of >>>> pkgconf since that means I don't have to do a crash course python >>>> programming. >>> Would be nice is portmgr can step on this, let's reduce this discussi= on for now >>> on pkgconf. >> >> I am waiting on an exp-run to fix this once and for all. >> >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D218067 >> >> When that is committed, anything can be added to the path pkgconfig >> searches, ports will always install it in the right place. >> > Sorry but why? why not moving libdata/pkgconfig to lib/pkgconfig? what = is the > rationale? Because a lot of build software know that on FreeBSD, the .pc file go in libdata/pkgconfig. If we move to some other place, we'll have a USES=3Dpathfixmore for the next 25 years until everyone understands we moved it some place else. --=20 Mathieu Arnold --SvU7srde9mTECapXNjHKcOugCkKahIbr3-- --NSPFsim5tGUQ4qiAXaBueWBP9ltCk5QLS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJY+TPOXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQzQUI2OTc4OUQyRUQxMjEwNjQ0MEJBNUIz QTQ1MTZGMzUxODNDRTQ4AAoJEDpFFvNRg85Ih3IP/jCByDscosFbSndXLSSwpNPQ BtxU7CmNDE/RqufUDg47G5t0UgNGmbIu8sjFHY2v9jk1PVt9s6rhdnqWEoF2EzsL 36Jmbn2IyrbFMCd7Q+DT8vHXYN4Ahat8WjP9yw3Z5KMC1Z4L03wf7k9tmsFZB8DF Kmq5bjqoPBVED2hXlzlFD/rcpQzkWQE383LTIUWnA1E2mxlFQs6WKKFnSxpCRe8S 9DfZpfF9ltJhR1F7bK9V/VBc7QKyjZ2FErxb5YS3pxgV9diAVo96nRaxkPgNTDFU 3r+dx6vs4UDqiyP83p9IjTnD5r4ZBClrLKc+vz8LuNkjb3E7OYUaRpUbY3OFXWWN bb2DPWqsm+4o/OVD3VBLg1iPy17S0FdiltPVE9jKhZfTPpwGtGRrnuL02KM6tRx+ sEOeZrVK6kP4AiSDoeNIYCPX1JQ6HyFiaj4rj3iMTKan3qAgEPuNx6+eqwoW0n0C +g3HL96ZkfZvoQXF+VdvLTWP3s8FDcB3wn4OsWWcEfRCK/CShBrCVrnO+pKnVmfa MPFUFIzsrUD9TW4CcK3wONaaFGdi7YwAG/8vqQgMAy7N6JICGFKhGtQ2noRyg0to s90ZJ5CTMNfY82iPXEzd3AabIWcSl9hOb6WdVCqMmerXHozxIkm0jCglxM/RuWiW H0nX1DoOOFK/g3fXhU96 =90tQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NSPFsim5tGUQ4qiAXaBueWBP9ltCk5QLS--