From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 15:56:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AAC1065677 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDAE8FC25 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1091032fxm.13 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7ysDEs+qs1mTk9her/wSAydDrRc8AZrv4nytdKR0D6E=; b=O7tMFlTf8T+tezNpvCHUe4AwmcYDLdVcPF1jOxEJjsHKMiHozbmcM89oDJ8DngPEWV jLUmpGS8BS1/SJVF5o1+GqcwH/UUKqz+tLqzKDou18dotGdapZ+Wy3Ke1Izn9s2OAYCP HZBw6aSF/XwRLhY1dSiwUAsMf4mnTh5AckRgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LgnCvY/Ai0h1dxvFqGGmtiupUKoBxRCPUtKZcCua1CCHIefG+EVTG0YdxPQ319xGXw jyvB5W6XKyIMV4duPriItfMRfXUrkLtHAwBw5P/sMDbz67/qqjz0kvZbT2AecyyT0JZp gB13hUOsFsorYJERB66L+ACBDKPHKkNScc6pY= Received: by 10.223.144.139 with SMTP id z11mr1048586fau.98.1308758171019; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q10sm412347fan.32.2011.06.22.08.56.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:56:07 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110622165607.2652ddbd@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201106221254.p5MCsrP9057641@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <20110622131035.6b773e6a@gumby.homeunix.com> <201106221254.p5MCsrP9057641@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 'mount -u' stumper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:56:12 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:54:53 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi wrote: > That's a large part of why I want to make it 'go away'. It _is_ a > "lie" on a RO system. Meaningless, and 'misleading' if you don't see > the RO option as well. > > When the filesystem _does_ need to be RW, I _want_ softupdates > enabled. It's a 'good thing' then;. When it's initially mounted RO > softupdates are _visibly_ off. I just want to restore that precise > situaion/presentation when i 'update' mount thefilesystem to RO. I'd argue the other way around, that mount should display what's configured even if some options do nothing in combination. noatime and async also do nothing in combination with ro, but mount will still display them: # mount -o ro,noatime,async /dev/md31 /mnt/t # mount | grep md31 /dev/md31 on /mnt/t (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, read-only)