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none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Reply-To: marklmi@yahoo.com From: Mark Millard via freebsd-bugs X-Original-From: Mark Millard On 2021-May-17, at 23:37, Baptiste Daroussin = wrote: >=20 >=20 > 18 mai 2021 06:50:03 Mark Millard : >=20 >> On 2021-May-15, at 22:22, Baptiste Daroussin = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> 16 mai 2021 05:29:07 Mark Millard : >>>=20 >>>> In exploring I've seen various web-page presentation of >>>> freebsd-bugs messages that seem to be messed up. An >>>> example is: >>>>=20 >>>> . . . >>>=20 >>> Nice catch, I will fix it >>>=20 >>=20 >> The extra text disappeared when I later looked at the >> pages via the URLs. >>=20 >> But I've run into another oddity. I did a google >> search for: >>=20 >> "Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin" >>=20 >> and then used the 1st link shown, the one from the text: >>=20 >> QUOTE >> https://lists.freebsd.org =E2=80=BA freebsd-arm =E2=80=BA = 2019-December >> Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin ... >> Dec 2, 2019 =E2=80=94 Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. = MACCHIATObin Double Shot (A72) for buildworld and via a CPU/cache/RAM = tradeoff-exploring ... >> END QUOTE >>=20 >> which has the link (it is for one of my old messages): >>=20 >> = https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D= &ved=3D2ahUKEwiPhp3OtdLwAhVH6Z4KHaXQC68QFjAAegQIAxAD&url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fl= ists.freebsd.org%2Fpipermail%2Ffreebsd-arm%2F2019-December%2F020854.html&u= sg=3DAOvVaw2VHrNUGc-Vce4CjAmTufxq >>=20 >> Or, extracting/converting the relevant part of that text: >>=20 >> = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2019-December/020854.html >>=20 >> This now takes me to the wrong message on the list, one titled: >>=20 >> Re: 64 bit ARM systems with more than four cores Ed Maste >>=20 >> Turns out that the my old message now shows up as 2 later >> by number (020854 -> 020856): >>=20 >> = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2019-December/020856.html >>=20 >> gets to the message with the correct title. >>=20 >> It appears that the numbering has not been preserved >> in the conversion. This can make google search results >> that point into the (older) freebsd lists >> problematical. >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> marklmi at yahoo.com >> ( dsl-only.net went >> away in early 2018-Mar) >=20 > 99.9% of the tume the numbering is preserved, sometimes it is not = given the weirdness of the things that happened in the past. i will dig = into this specific case to see what I can do. But don t expect much = here. >=20 FYI: In my "binary search inspired" looking around everything I looked at that was old but more recent than 2014-Dec-23 had the offset of 2. Everything older than 2014-Dec-10 worked. Those dates are as close together as I got. (Finding things that have useful google search matches in a time frame is messy so the results are limited. It would be nice to find a better way to looking up old references.) Example: "lsof on FreeBSD/arm" goggle search click through to page vs.: Tuesday, 23 December 2014 . . .=20 =E2=80=A2 Re: lsof on FreeBSD/arm Larry Rosenman=20 =E2=80=A2 [Differential] [Commented On] D1317: Build gperf as a = dependency before gcc for arm releases emaste (Ed Maste)=20 =E2=80=A2 [Differential] [Updated, 8 lines] D1317: Build gperf = as a dependency before gcc for arm releases emaste (Ed Maste)=20 It gets on to the message for last line (still off by two for the number, like what I reported already): By contrast: "watchdogd not working anymore (since r273154+)" google search click = through vs.: Wednesday, 10 December 2014 . . . =E2=80=A2 Re: RPi - watchdogd not working anymore (since = r273154+) Andreas Schwarz=20 worked. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)