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[99.109.126.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q1sm15858678igj.15.2012.07.08.10.10.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q68HAJlX081930 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Jul 2012 13:10:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhellenthal@DataIX.net) Received: (from jh@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q68HAIh7081929; Sun, 8 Jul 2012 13:10:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhellenthal@DataIX.net) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 13:10:18 -0400 From: Jason Hellenthal To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20120708171018.GA81070@DataIX.net> References: <4FF2E00E.2030502@FreeBSD.org> <86bojxow6x.fsf@ds4.des.no> <89AB703D-E075-4AAC-AC1B-B358CC4E4E7F@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4FF8C3A1.9080805@FreeBSD.org> <20472.51031.308284.775990@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <07345CE5-EE3A-413D-84BC-C9DA63FCBB9E@bsdimp.com> <4FF9512A.8050803@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FF9512A.8050803@FreeBSD.org> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmkf3z+HB2HSqAbR4SXYWn6e4oZ4EPuUrkKf/FjSQNMV8F79rfc3x4yUzwAtPF0LJaDWdji Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 17:10:24 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > On 07/08/2012 01:03, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > >=20 > > On 8. Jul 2012, at 02:44 , Warner Losh wrote: > >=20 > >> > >> On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > >>> <= said: > >>> > >>>> BIND in the base today comes with a full-featured local resolver > >>>> configuration, which I'm confident that Dag-Erling can do for unbound > >>>> (and which I would be glad to assist with if needed). Other than tha= t, > >>>> what integration are you concerned about? > >>> > >>> The utilities (specifically host(1) and dig(1)) are the only > >>> user-visible interfaces I care about. I don't see any need for there > >>> to be an authoritative name server in the base system. So long as the > >>> resolver works properly and does DNSsec validation.... > >> > >> The only reason I want it in the base system is that ports don't cross= build very well, but the base system does. That's a weak +1 for keeping s= omething in the base system, but I'll be the first to admit it is a second = or third tier argument at best. > >=20 > > The real reason you want exactly these tools in base is that otherwise = you > > end up rewriting tiny parts of freebsd-update etc that actually depend = on > > host, etc. to query SRV for SRV records. >=20 > That's an implementation issue, and is easily handled with drill, or the > host-like program we all agree is a really-nice-to-have. >=20 =46rom first impression it seems that drill(1) has a syntax that leaves something to be desired like the eased use of host or dig. Specifically and not trying to make this thread about such but "+trace +short" styles just simply do not exist. I suppose a wrapper could be written to parse thoise syntaxes into there correct meaning dig.sh host.sh but thatd be one hell of a compatability problem rather than just having bind-tools in base. --=20 - (2^(N-1)) --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP+b75AAoJEBSh2Dr1DU7WWd4IAJjXprOy+6oIZtqz//+f0Qz4 hlaMJQ1PlLQmAeUltxTQaK+yoZh7XH+uPFprm+dR3e3HQZe1Aif0n1uqMwJwp+WU XRSzJW1elnSPT9HCLaDW04zyl9E/pA8qpmhEaXhG+qM+mKcvdQnoJriQi23TnsiD yL+rZYGuNhCE9xVgsNvPyEoWaiUu1UknKV2GtA/LVUgmmKYKvdMVF0qiDeksZvF3 r07QIPZEwDSYoyhnUaa0YmcS1joQnKzaXC4dThQn4x+NXJCrJRh5Btrg7N4t8f36 VzSo6kkXVygzzf8ndxEXM2nz4oBdv4lU92caUnszh3a17dlo2Y1lJp0TRuA9elQ= =NBNb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO--