Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 04:45:22 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> To: Martin Wilke <miwi@freebsd.org> Cc: Christoph Moench-Tegeder <cmt@burggraben.net>, Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org>, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r490910 - in head: Mk Mk/Uses mail/thunderbird www/firefox www/firefox-esr www/firefox-i18n www/firefox/files www/palemoon www/seamonkey Message-ID: <20190123044522.GA8128@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc> References: <201901212303.x0LN3jR3059519@repo.freebsd.org> <CAGBxaX=T7SvB6Ncm-0Drt1-HLED92xKuJ-LRvg%2BYsDFKrYCp4A@mail.gmail.com> <CAGBxaXmOibxw_q5Ev34oyiCetNRqNVLNY5VjQrJZFEFTy6nDhg@mail.gmail.com> <o989-8nt8-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190122100911.GA77378@elch.exwg.net> <d0oo-fn3l-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190122205210.GA2480@elch.exwg.net> <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc>
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:17:42AM +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 09:52:11PM +0100, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: > > ... > > Given that WAYLAND is the default for us, and "without wayland" > > might be untested anyways - would it make sense to remove the > > WAYLAND option and force it to "on" always? Please don't. I have zero reasons to want/enable Wayland bits and deal with all the extra bloat that comes with it. Modern FreeBSD/X.org stack is quite bloated already (e.g. compared with my 8.4-STABLE setup). > Correct me if I am wrong, WAYLAND is a X replacement which is not really > working with FreeBSD atm. Not just FreeBSD, it looks like experimental project even in GNU/Linux, but most important it is inherently useless in the first place, because X11 works just fine. > Why should I/we install it when we don't use it? For me the only thing > it does is increasing build time, and for minimal desktops a useless > dependency. Its already absurd enough to have 2 CLANG versions on a > desktop. I fully concur. We really need to slow down the bloat in ports, it is becoming harder and harder to build/use them on a typical commodity, moderately capable hardware. ./danfe
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