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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 295f2544d23c47f05c406e8f277672f5; Sat, 27 Sep 2025 22:19:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Why are /usr/lib/pam*.so in FreeBSD-runtime instead of FreeBSD-runtime-dev ? Message-Id: <51CDE4C0-9B62-44E4-A0A6-B04F4BA313FD@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2025 15:19:01 -0700 To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, Lexi Winter , Baptiste Daroussin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) References: <51CDE4C0-9B62-44E4-A0A6-B04F4BA313FD.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.148:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.148:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cZ21S1kVQz3vG2 For reference: # pkg info -l FreeBSD-runtime | grep "pam.*\.so.*"=20 /usr/lib/libpam.so.6 /usr/lib/pam_lastlog.so /usr/lib/pam_lastlog.so.6 /usr/lib/pam_login_access.so /usr/lib/pam_login_access.so.6 /usr/lib/pam_nologin.so /usr/lib/pam_nologin.so.6 /usr/lib/pam_securetty.so /usr/lib/pam_securetty.so.6 /usr/lib/pam_self.so /usr/lib/pam_self.so.6 /usr/lib/pam_unix.so /usr/lib/pam_unix.so.6 # pkg info -l FreeBSD-runtime-dev | grep "pam.*\.so.*" /usr/lib/libpam.so It might just be that part of the criteria is the naming match lib*.so . But by type of content, the status would be less clear. So: runtime: -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 52616 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/libpam.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 16 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_lastlog.so -> pam_lastlog.so.6 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 7672 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_lastlog.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 21 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_login_access.so -> pam_login_access.so.6 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 11608 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_login_access.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 16 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_nologin.so -> pam_nologin.so.6 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 6640 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_nologin.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 18 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_securetty.so -> pam_securetty.so.6 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 5664 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_securetty.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 13 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_self.so -> pam_self.so.6 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 5248 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_self.so.6 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 13 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_unix.so -> pam_unix.so.6 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 13696 Sep 24 08:03:12 2025 = /usr/lib/pam_unix.so.6 runtime-dev: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 11 Sep 23 15:06:33 2025 = /usr/lib/libpam.so -> libpam.so.6 Note: the test context is somewhat older: FreeBSD-runtime-16.snap20250924151341 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com