From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Feb 4 15:12:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B0D737B401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 43911 invoked by uid 100); 4 Feb 2001 23:12:11 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14973.57803.289200.425874@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:12:11 -0600 (CST) To: john@T-F-I.freeserve.co.uk Cc: j mckitrick , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: software development tools - microsoft and unix In-Reply-To: References: <20010201183650.C76922@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Murphy types: > j mckitrick wrote: > >It seems if there is one thing Microsoft does well, it is providing powerful > >development tools. If you ignore the fact that they use proprietary > >language extensions, what is the problem with these tools? They have taken > >the industry by storm, and even Kdevelop has tried to clone the Visual > >studio look and feel. > > Borland does it better and there's some excitement about Kylix on /. > http://slashdot.org/articles/01/01/31/1634222.shtml > > There's also Glade (comes with the Gnome Desktop), probably very similar > to Kdevelop, which I haven't looked at yet. Since I just got reminded of it - Vistasource open sourced the application builder they ship with Applixware Office. Details, downloads, etc. at . The major drawback is that it works with ELF, the Applixware extension language. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message