From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 7 05:23:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47CF106566C for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 05:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5248FC14 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 05:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-61-120.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.61.120]:51713 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1P3iwY-0008Hb-Bh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:23:04 +0200 Received: (qmail 16160 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2010 07:23:02 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 7 Oct 2010 07:23:02 +0200 Received: (qmail 21459 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Oct 2010 07:23:02 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 07:23:02 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Message-ID: <20101007052302.GA21385@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <86fwwjyurd.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20101006215345.1a57c45c@gumby.homeunix.com> <86pqvnxbre.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20101006225923.GA18732@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <86vd5ex6ks.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86vd5ex6ks.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.61.120 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1P3iwY-0008Hb-Bh. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net 1P3iwY-0008Hb-Bh 719cc93cb7c2e04c7ca2a066a3ca8ab9 Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 05:23:20 -0000 On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 04:08:35PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Erik" == Erik Trulsson writes: > > Erik> Since it essentially says that if you export it from the USA you will > Erik> have to follow whatever laws and regulations covers such exports, it > Erik> doesn't really add any burden since anybody doing such an export would > Erik> be legally required to do so anyway. > > Erik> AFAICT the paragraph in question does not add any restrictions or > Erik> burdens, it just points out potentially existing ones. > > Yes, you always have to obey the law when you export. But this clause > seems to imply that the associated software *knowingly* triggers the > export laws, probably in a bad way. > > Do you have a different opinion, and is it a legal opinion? To me it looks much more like a case of some corporate standard cover-your-ass boilerplate text that is used regardless of whether there is reason to believe any particular piece of software needs any special export approval. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se