From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 20:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AD416A4CE for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from frodo.otenet.gr (frodo.otenet.gr [195.170.0.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6892F43D3F for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:53:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a147.otenet.gr [212.205.215.147]) by frodo.otenet.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i66KrYds020885; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:53:38 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i66KrVFS025312; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:53:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i66KrOgt025311; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:53:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:53:23 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matthew Seaman , Phil Schulz , Mark Jayson Alvarez , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040706205323.GB24934@gothmog.gr> References: <20040705162320.11141.qmail@web51604.mail.yahoo.com> <40E99786.5000005@gmx.de> <20040705210817.GB4560@gothmog.gr> <20040706094303.GA9617@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20040706103657.GA489@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040706103657.GA489@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Subject: Re: A few simple questions(...if you don't mind) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 20:53:47 -0000 On 2004-07-06 12:36, Erik Trulsson wrote: > If you go back a bit further in time there was the Great Worm of 1988, > which targeted VAX and Sun3 systems running BSD code, and which > actually did bring down most of the Internet at the time. That was the > incident that got people in the Unix community to start thinking seriously > about security. Heh. Interesting to see written by someone else what I usually find myself repeating to users of Windows who ask "yeah, but what about the `One True Worm'?" What I find amusing to joke about is that "The Windows' crowds like using the word `innovation' as a substitute for `many inexperienced repetitions of past mistakes'. The fact that they don't seem to have taken the "Worm of 1988" too seriously and more than 10 years after the first version of Windows was out they STILL have virus problems is IMHO very typical of their inability or reluctance to take advantage of the existing pools of experience (well, not always too reluctant and not always 100% unable, but most of the time). Giorgos