From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 20:26:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0CC106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.delphij.net (delphij-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:2c9::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A208FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.delphij.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E761928448 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:25:58 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AF2ED9F23; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:25:58 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([211.166.10.233]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FDgQt7JbH62e; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:25:53 +0800 (CST) Received: from charlie.delphij.net (adsl-76-237-33-62.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.237.33.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB6F4ED9E9C; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:25:51 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent: mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to: x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dWCmyuGocqFIM9jT3F3IyhjqzfqUFYGoJ2776YErydyw7Xm4DXPis+ucEk9TDBcpS sElFtIfxgCuKufNWLkE4g== Message-ID: <4934484C.7060106@delphij.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:25:48 -0800 From: Xin LI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jo Rhett References: <84E1EC10-5323-4A8C-AD60-31142621DB32@netconsonance.com> <200810271151.47366.jhb@freebsd.org> <280616DD-A58F-4AE5-AB03-92C5F2C244EC@netconsonance.com> <1227733967.83059.1.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <1228159822.15856.45.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=18EDEBA0; url=http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ken Smith , freebsd-stable Stable Subject: Re: Can I get a committer to mark this bug as blocking 6.4-RELEASE ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@delphij.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:26:00 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jo Rhett wrote: > On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Ken Smith wrote: >> Both John and Xin Li have chimed in on the two threads I've seen that >> are related to this specific topic. John diagnosed it as a issue with >> the BIOS. That's what makes it a nebulous problem. When working on >> those sorts of things most people liken it to "Whack-a-mole". > > Diagnosed without testing. John never asked for any more information > than the page fault description from me. When I asked what else to test > and offered to supply systems for testing he stopped responding. Xin Li > proposed a work-around that would have castrated the systems. It might > work, but it wasn't a useful workaround so I deferred testing and > focused on trying to get someone to address the real problem. What I proposed is, to *narrow down* the problem so we can diagnose further, since nobody has idea at the moment about how the problem was, we do need to have further information, or, to get the whole 6.3->6.4 diff reviewed, which is (in my opinion) not an optimal use of developers' time. Cheers, - -- Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk0SEwACgkQi+vbBBjt66AbmACeLJgUrf3fp9yNyUXV/T/YvCxT WDkAoL745HKpJw0CogTcZDdvbkMck3uG =0Fg4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----