From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 10 19:26:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8B216A4DD for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF39D43D4C for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:26:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.48.2]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CC61703F; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:26:50 +0000 (UTC) To: Barkley Vowk From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:10:43 CST." <20060810130331.X94142@3jane.math.ualberta.ca> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:26:50 +0000 Message-ID: <19518.1155238010@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jos=E9_M=2E_Fandi=F1o=22?= Subject: Re: atheros chips dangerous? X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:26:52 -0000 In message <20060810130331.X94142@3jane.math.ualberta.ca>, Barkley Vowk writes: >On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> The Atheros driver in FreeBSD is maintained and compiled by Sam Leffler, >> who has been around since BSD 4.2 in the early eighties sometimes. >> >> I trust Sam. > >I don't think that quite answers his question however. Its not so much a >matter of trusting Sam, but a matter of trusting that Sam had enough >access to the binary objects in question to have eliminated the errors in >them. Sam compiled those binaries, he has the source code. And it is a matter of trust. Unless you are willing to stand up can swear that you have never run a single line of code which you have not inspected and throught about yourself, then you implicitly have to trust the programmer. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.