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Date:      Fri, 30 May 1997 22:50:07 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Wes Peters <softweyr@xmission.com>
To:        "Gary B. Corell" <corellg@msw0.attnet.or.jp>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   pap,chap and user ppp
Message-ID:  <199705310450.WAA27819@obie.softweyr.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <199705270856.RAA25591@msw0.attnet.or.jp>
References:  <199705270856.RAA25591@msw0.attnet.or.jp>

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Gary B. Corell writes:
 > I am running FreeBSD 2.1.6 at the moment along with user ppp ( with tun ).
 > I have configured /etc/ppp.conf to be as close to the examples as possible
 > but so far no luck. I am having to use Win95 to log into my ISP for the
 > 32bit tcp/ip stack and their canned configuration of which I know little
 > about. they don't or won't even tell you whether its pap or chap. They
 > discourage sternly even trying to use unix here on attnet.or.jp Misawa A.B.
 > Japan.
 > the login ID is some 31 characters long consisting of a specific ID
 > followed by the @msw0.attnet.or.jp   The primary DNS is 165.76.26.2 and
 > thru some experimentation I have discovered that my dynamic address will be
 > a class C variant of that. but I don't know what their port address will
 > be. ( they won't even tell me what kind of computer or operating system
 > they're using.
 > Also I've heard that I must put something in my /etc/ppp.secrets file but I
 > don't understand what especially for the password. Can someone please help!

This sounds like CHAP, but you can't be certain without seeing the
actual packets themselves.  There are a couple of things you can try,
however.  Using user ppp, if you accept both chap and pap, and turn on
LCP debugging, you'll probably be able to trace their server starting
the authentication conversation with your ppp.  I.e, if they are using
PAP, you'll see something like:

	01-29 23:26:36 [203] Phase: Authenticate
	01-29 23:26:36 [203]  his = c023, mine = c023
	01-29 23:26:36 [203] PAP: username (password)

in the log file.  If you're using CHAP, the protocol type (c023) will be
different, and I assume you'll get a few log lines starting with CHAP:,
and telling you about the challenge and response packets.

I believe your best bet would be to find another ISP that is not so
unfriendly toward UNIX.  This company obviously has their collective
heads planted in Bill'$ lap and doesn't really want your money all that
badly.

-- 
          "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                       Softweyr LLC
http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr                       softweyr@xmission.com






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