From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 8 17:10:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265D0F3C for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from break19@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C9A8FC1A for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so5920421iea.13 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:10:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HF5ok7IxUJD4GNJlFqHYLMiloW1QfazzMi2Z2BPW0HQ=; b=c25EIaXi2UuQxfuEKXQidNhD0EBGK+E7e6gwuvtX+O024zAp3Wm5bHwoqAM1hfHcRl YwB52zBm6lsH0o5Dwd4TBqhGVWrAKDnkYFXO911p8hDbE0QG2LhXu+m4hxbq4GVl+Yzn aKssMcyjl8nxxp5ZMJHEQcmyqwQONudK1WA9wJlLT+/vguLQS/dSvfQyQxftvKv9c7el N9cQF9GzDkuKJyb09hr638W0FJfUM8YN2rATecClQCUcgOdovtspDQeHe2mT92ELOWXZ iPPI/UUzxmu8Frm6p+GDoilI3Cc78ojmluFx8LmSh/0iAA1tHoxXo01S8AOpt7u1wGjJ aQ9w== Received: by 10.43.50.197 with SMTP id vf5mr7759227icb.13.1352394651028; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.198] ([173.157.19.213]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s20sm5126169igs.10.2012.11.08.09.10.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:10:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <509BE78C.50804@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:10:36 -0600 From: Chuck Burns User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-) References: <201211062158.qA6Lvt2l039276@fire.js.berklix.net> <509BE4D2.2010603@wintek.com> In-Reply-To: <509BE4D2.2010603@wintek.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:10:52 -0000 On 11/8/2012 10:58 AM, Richard Kuhns wrote: > On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: >> >>> I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) >>> >>> With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) >>> situation is following: >>> >>> 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf file is needed. However it might bo >>> option to pass some additional featutes parameters with xorg.conf. >>> 2. With no hald and dbus mouse and keyboard does not work in xorg unless >>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" is added to Section "ServerLayout" by >>> hand in xorg.conf. Without this option input does not work even if >>> xorg.conf defines it! AllowEmptyInput=False forces to detect input deviced >>> by Xorg at startup. >> >> No. AllowEmptyInput is wrong. It was causing so many problems that it >> has been removed from later xorg-server releases. >> >> Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" is the one that means "dont' use Hal to >> detect input devices". >> >>> Thank you for this hint! This could be added to the handbook :-) >>> AllowEmptyInput=False should be a default for Xorg IMO we can report it to >>> the Xorg project! :-) >> >> Really, the simplest solution is to build xorg-server with the HAL >> option disabled. I agree that this should be the default. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Just a comment: according to http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox, Hal is still > required for VirtualBox in order to have host DVD/CD access. > Doesn't mean xorg-server needs hal. Build xorg-server without hal support... install hald for virtualbox. Everything still works as it should... In the meantime, someone should probably write a devd<->udisks[12] translation daemon.. for things like gnome, kde, xfce, and virtualbox, which have the udisks linuxisms can actually continue to work in the future.. I'd do it if I had any coding skills... I left those behind when I sold my Commodore64. :P -- Chuck Burns