From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Oct 29 13:44: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3706F37B401 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 72269 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 21:44:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Oct 2001 21:44:01 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15325.47137.886703.730360@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:43:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86 Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp , Jordan Hubbard , tlambert2@mindspring.com Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 29-Oct-01 Nate Williams wrote: > [ Moved to -chat, and reduced Cc list somewhat ] > >> > > type-checking than C, (but before anybody suggest it: "...but without >> > > all >> > > the excess luggage and emotional hangups of C++") >> > >> > Even implying that C++ simply has emotional hangups is like saying >> > that Jeffrey Dahmer merely had an eating disorder. :) >> > >> > That language is nothing less than a distillation of raw evil. >> >> Any tool looks evil if it is used incorrectly. > > Any tool that requires you to go through the gyrations that C++ requires > in order to accomplish simple things is evil. ;) My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at this point it's larger than C..) I prefer the way Java lays out code (functions defined within the class, etc.). Unfortunately, the implemenetations of Java running around aren't the speediest unless you are running !FreeBSD. :-/ Granted, speed isn't needed for all things. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message