From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 4 18: 8:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEC637B401 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27526; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f5517sk84297; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:07:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15132.12522.204808.968943@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:07:54 -0400 (EDT) To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI devices settling and illegal request In-Reply-To: <200106050057.f550vcb40499@vashon.polstra.com> References: <3B1C0B05.412793BB@enetis.net> <20010604180035.A18581@arrakis.tamu.edu> <15132.9197.86824.642979@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <200106050057.f550vcb40499@vashon.polstra.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Polstra writes: > In article <15132.9197.86824.642979@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>, > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > The only cards I've seen that give a hoot what hose they're on are > > NCR/Sym cards. I suppose video cards would need to be on the zeroth > > hose too.. > > OK, I give up. What's a "hose"? > > John Modern server-class alphas (such as DS20, xp1000, AS4100, AS4000, AS1200, etc) may have totally separate PCI buses, with separate IO and memory spaces. Like a normal bus, each of these can have ppbs to child busses, etc. We call each collection of buses a hose. This terminology comes from the SRM console. See sys/alpha/pci/tsunami_pci.c and sys/alpha/mcbus/mcpcia.c for two examples. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message