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On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 01:45:14PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 03:39:57 PM Mark Linimon wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x.
> > 
> > I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not build
> > on 4.x, nor have they done so for years.  I personally removed the legacy
> > cruft when 4.11 finally went EOL.
> > 
> > > I am got complains about using ports on 8.x.
> > 
> > I am 99% certain that ports will not work on either 8.x or 9.x.  Legacy
> > cruft was removed at the EOL in each of those cases.
> > 
> > Anyone who think that we can support ports on 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, 7.x, 8.x,
> > 9.x, 10.x, 11.x, and -current, all at the same time, needs to seek medical
> > attention at once.  At the absolute least, that era spans 3 major versions
> > of make(1) and two completely different package implementations.
> 
> I think Slawa's point was that my suggestion that people with old hardware
> should run old releases means that they cannot use a modern ports checkout

Yes.

> with those older systems.  That point is correct, but you probably don't
> want to run newer, more bloated 3rd party software on such gear either.

Not all software bloated, some software need to updated (for example, not sure
about sshd in 4.x system. Or openssl).